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dear god..what has happened to the mma discussion.

Rush decided to give us a "UFC Forum" as he put it. i thought it was fine just having the MMA thread for random banter and making new threads for every event. fedor disapproves of this new forum and im with him

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Rush decided to give us a "UFC Forum" as he put it. i thought it was fine just having the MMA thread for random banter and making new threads for every event. fedor disapproves of this new forum and im with him

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Its like all the crazy people were let out, and they invaded our small quiet community.
 
“I cannot say I was surprised by anything that night other then Brock’s reaction to beating a very tough Frank Mir. Frank is a legend and a great guy who got out powered not out classed. The sponsor issue, you need to talk to your manager not the fans or Dana. The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn’t matter how much money you make if you can’t earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn’t matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose…. This is the greatest sport int he world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it. From leaving the venue all the way to the Airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them. The thing is I have a very tough fight ahead of me that IMO is every bit as tough and talented as Brock … we are at the top of the HWT division and anyone we fight moving forward is going to be a real test. Cain is nothing short of a super athlete with amazing wrestling and he trains with one of the best camps in the country. I am sure Joe Silva told Cain the same thing he told us, winner gets the title shot. Cain is not looking past me he is looking right at me as the person that is in his way from potentially one of the greatest opportunities of his life and mine. I have said what I have to say about Brock. He will make sure the world knows who he is and what he is all about. I ask that you my fans and the fans of Cain give this fight its due. You would never see two rising undefeated stars put together in Boxing so enjoy this fight. Two warriors with wills to win and the skills to do so are going to show those watching UFC 104 what the future of the sport will look like.”

Shane Carwin is the fuckin man.
 
Shane Carwin is the fuckin man.

Carwin is planting the seeds for his own war of words.

Carwin, and whoever else, can complain all they want, but Lesnar was the biggest draw in the sport (and the biggest PPV draw PERIOD if PBF & Oscar retire) before the infamous promo, and now he's an even bigger star because of the middle fingers and PROWRES antics.

People will keep paying to see someone beat his ass, and when someone finally does, they will instantly become a mega star because of it.

Carwin knows Brock can make him famous.
 
Carwin is planting the seeds for his own war of words.

Carwin, and whoever else, can complain all they want, but Lesnar was the biggest draw in the sport (and the biggest PPV draw PERIOD if PBF & Oscar retire) before the infamous promo, and now he's an even bigger star because of the middle fingers and PROWRES antics.

People will keep paying to see someone beat his ass, and when someone finally does, they will instantly become a mega star because of it.

Carwin knows Brock can make him famous.

That's true to an extent, but I doubt that's the way Shane Carwin is really looking at it.
 
That's true to an extent, but I doubt that's the way Shane Carwin is really looking at it.

The best thing for business last night was for Lesnar to win.

The best thing for business now, is for someone to beat Lesnar.

Lesnar is locked and loaded as a mega draw, and the biggest star in the sport. And as an added bonus, he's hated. A loss wouldnt hurt him one bit right now.

Whoever beats him instantly becomes a monster draw. Dana would be an absolute fool to put the Nog/Couture winner against him. It needs to be the Carwin/Cain winner. Those guys need the rub, Couture and Nog are already established.
 
The best thing for business last night was for Lesnar to win.

The best thing for business now, is for someone to beat Lesnar.

Lesnar is locked and loaded as a mega draw, and the biggest star in the sport. And as an added bonus, he's hated. A loss wouldnt hurt him one bit right now.

Whoever beats him instantly becomes a monster draw. Dana would be an absolute fool to put the Nog/Couture winner against him. It needs to be the Carwin/Cain winner. Those guys need the rub, Couture and Nog are already established.

I know, I never tried to argue otherwise. Really the best thing is Fedor vs Lesnar before anyone else tho. They need to use Lesnars drawing power in order to introduce Fedor to the casual fans.
 
I know, I never tried to argue otherwise.

I know man, I just get wrapped up in the business side. You know that.

Steel Mamba said:
Really the best thing is Fedor vs Lesnar before anyone else tho. They need to use Lesnars drawing power in order to introduce Fedor to the casual fans.

It's still a pipe dream.

Fedor dosen't need Dana, and really, Dana dosen't need him. Meaning neither side will budge.

Dana shouldn't blow his entire pay scale, not coming off what will surely be his most successful event ever.

Fedor has nothing to prove to anyone, and someone in Japan will pay him what he wants to beat giants and pro wrestlers.

I just don't see it, not with the current landscape.
 
I know man, I just get wrapped up in the business side. You know that.



It's still a pipe dream.

Fedor dosen't need Dana, and really, Dana dosen't need him. Meaning neither side will budge.

Dana shouldn't blow his entire pay scale, not coming off what will surely be his most successful event ever.

Fedor has nothing to prove to anyone, and someone in Japan will pay him what he wants to beat giants and pro wrestlers.

I just don't see it, not with the current landscape.


He doesn't need him, but he wants him. I'm not a huge Dana White fan personally, but I can't deny that for better or worse he is very up front and genuine. So when he says he wants to sign Fedor and the signing is imminent I definitely believe him. I think the only thing that can stop that from happening is Fedor losing to Barnett.

From Fedors perspective I still see the most money for him being in the UFC. Whatever he doesn’t get in guaranteed pay the PPV backend and sponsorships will more than make up for. I know he’s likely getting a piece of Afflictions PPVs, but Affliction isn’t putting up the numbers that the UFC is. So, if you take everything into consideration I’m sure he’ll come out better in the UFC. Plus, I still believe that these guys want to fight the best and challenge their selves and there are some good matches for Fedor in the UFC.

From the UFC’s perspective the time is finally perfect, because now their ROI for Fedor will be more than worth it. Brock Lesnar vs Fedor would be the biggest fight in MMA history. With Brock being the bad guy, if you do a 24/7 show like they did with GSP/Penn I guarantee you Fedor is going to win over a lot of the casual fan base. He’ll become a huge star by fighting and beating Brock. So now with that you have yet another huge draw in your org and an amazing talent. If Brock loses it really won’t hurt him much, a lot of people will still want to see him fight. It’s an amazing win/win business situation for the UFC. In that circumstance Fedor will make the UFC a lot of money.
 
He doesn't need him, but he wants him. I'm not a huge Dana White fan personally, but I can't deny that for better or worse he is very up front and genuine. So when he says he wants to sign Fedor and the signing is imminent I definitely believe him. I think the only thing that can stop that from happening is Fedor losing to Barnett.

From Fedors perspective I still see the most money for him being in the UFC. Whatever he doesn’t get in guaranteed pay the PPV backend and sponsorships will more than make up for. I know he’s likely getting a piece of Afflictions PPVs, but Affliction isn’t putting up the numbers that the UFC is. So, if you take everything into consideration I’m sure he’ll come out better in the UFC. Plus, I still believe that these guys want to fight the best and challenge their selves and there are some good matches for Fedor in the UFC.

From the UFC’s perspective the time is finally perfect, because now their ROI for Fedor will be more than worth it. Brock Lesnar vs Fedor would be the biggest fight in MMA history. With Brock being the bad guy, if you do a 24/7 show like they did with GSP/Penn I guarantee you Fedor is going to win over a lot of the casual fan base. He’ll become a huge star by fighting and beating Brock. So now with that you have yet another huge draw in your org and an amazing talent. If Brock loses it really won’t hurt him much, a lot of people will still want to see him fight. It’s an amazing win/win business situation for the UFC. In that circumstance Fedor will make the UFC a lot of money.


Everyone wants it, and I hope we get it.

I just don't see it.

Dana hates Josh Barnett already, imagine if he knocks off Fedor.
 
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