Most underrated player in baseball?

[SuperKevin]

He's been an all-star every season he's been in the majors, but amazingly you could still make a case that he's unheralded.

Also this guy isn't a star by any means, but Josh Willingham is a solid player. Career 120 OPS+ and gives you decent HR production. Very useful player that nobody really cares much about.

I miss Josh Willingham

 

[FedEx227]

Everytime he gains momentum, he gets hurt again. I'm not saying he's a star, but he's a good hitter and a much better glove than whatever numbers you are using give him credit for. Hence, underrated!

He also absolutely murders the Reds, which may cloud my judgement a bit.

My stupid numbers say he's a career .232/.291/.295 with 1 HR and 20 strikeouts against the Reds....

MURDER! That or his production doesn't show up in the stat sheet. He probably gets his jersey really, really dirty and at least attempts to run out all the ground ball outs he makes.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

My stupid numbers say he's a career .232/.291/.295 with 1 HR and 20 strikeouts against the Reds....

MURDER! That or his production doesn't show up in the stat sheet. He probably gets his jersey really, really dirty and at least attempts to run out all the ground ball outs he makes.

Why don't you look up the numbers he just put up in the series this week, which is what I was talking about, and was being played when I put him on my list.

 

[FedEx227]

Well that's a relatively small sample size, sir.

:smug:

And to be fair your quote was "He also absolutely murders the Reds, which may cloud my judgement a bit." not specifically detailing the most recent series.

 

[Archer]

Wandy and David Murphy

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Well that's a relatively small sample size, sir.

:smug:

And to be fair your quote was "He also absolutely murders the Reds, which may cloud my judgement a bit." not specifically detailing the most recent series.

Master of semantics here.

Look dude, he was beating up on the Reds when I posted in the thread, and looked pretty damn good doing it. I rmember thinking during the series, shit, this guy is better that I thought, which kinda is the criteria for "underrated".

Anyway, I don't think he's a bum, which is the general concensus. He's always hurt, I think that has derailed him some. With the multitude of little hispanic SS's that bring nothing to the table flaoting around the league, I'll take him.

 

[FedEx227]

I wouldn't really say he's underrated though... he's really just not that good. He's probably the sixth or seventh best shortstop (in an absolutely desolate SS pool).

It's hard for me to ever put him into the "underrated" category because of how highly touted he was coming into the league. As you mentioned he has injury concerns but he also has inconsistencies when he's healthy and has some pretty bad Home/Road splits.

 

[Obst]

Not trying to be a homer but Placido Polanco.

 

[FedEx227]

Polanco is underrated for sure. If you eliminate his first few seasons with St. Louis he's had a pretty stellar career.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I wouldn't really say he's underrated though... he's really just not that good. He's probably the sixth or seventh best shortstop (in an absolutely desolate SS pool).

It's hard for me to ever put him into the "underrated" category because of how highly touted he was coming into the league. As you mentioned he has injury concerns but he also has inconsistencies when he's healthy and has some pretty bad Home/Road splits.

Nothing untrue here.

I tap out.

 

[FedEx227]

He, like that entire Arizona team just decided to be awesome when there were 21-23, then completely suck from 24-27.

Who the hell knows. What a weird ass team.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Shaun Marcum, very underrated pitcher.

 

[FedEx227]

 

[NAHSTE]

Not trying to be a homer but Placido Polanco.

Good choice.

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

You have to watch Arroyo to appreciate him. He's a guy who doesn't care about numbers, and pitches to the scoreboard. He can K guys, and bears down when he has to, but he generally will pitch to contact and try to make you hit bad stuff. He teases you with slow loopy curves and does wacky shit like throwing 15 straight breaking balls or 0-2 85 mph "heaters" down the middle, with the idea of keeping you guessing. He ends up with high era's some years, because he will get bombed once or twice per year and not get out of the 1st. But he's a lock for 35 starts, 200 IP, and 15+ W's. I love him.

I was a big fan of him when he was in Boston. Still mad that they traded him for Wily Mo Pena

 

[FirstTimer]

Alexei Ramirez.

Obviously not Hanley or Tulo but I don't think he gets near enough mention for maybe being the 3rd best SS in the game.

 

[nflman2033]

You have to watch Arroyo to appreciate him. He's a guy who doesn't care about numbers, and pitches to the scoreboard. He can K guys, and bears down when he has to, but he generally will pitch to contact and try to make you hit bad stuff. He teases you with slow loopy curves and does wacky shit like throwing 15 straight breaking balls or 0-2 85 mph "heaters" down the middle, with the idea of keeping you guessing. He ends up with high era's some years, because he will get bombed once or twice per year and not get out of the 1st. But he's a lock for 35 starts, 200 IP, and 15+ W's. I love him.

It took me four years to really appreciate arroyo. Since he has been here he was called a number five pitcher being asked to be a number one or two. while he isn't an ace he is better than a number five so I won't argue Underrated. now Adam dunn, lol must be a case of so overrated that his considered Underrated. what a joke if you white sox fans are happy with him I am glad, but Underrated what a joke.

 

[FedEx227]

Ben Zobrist was after his awful 2009, but he flat out sucked last year.

 

[NAHSTE]

Alexei Ramirez.

Obviously not Hanley or Tulo but I don't think he gets near enough mention for maybe being the 3rd best SS in the game.

Pfftt... He's not even the best SS from Cuba.

 

 

[FedEx227]

The guy plays every position but Catcher for the rays. His best year was 2009, so what you said doesn't make sense. He did have a horrible year last year, but they still won the AL East. You never really hear his name brought up for any discussion, which is why I mentioned his name. I'm not saying he's the most underated, but he's def not talked about even though he is a really quality player.

Sorry meant he was underrated AFTER 2009 but proved to be rated about where he should be after a pretty bad 2010.