Most underrated player in baseball?

[nflman2033]

Who ever said Dunn was a "great" baseball player?

People enamored with his HR, OBP, OPS. The fact that people were putting him in the hall as soon as he hits 500 HR's which was inevitable since to quote W2B he was a mortal lock to hit 40 a year and has never had injury concerns.

W2btd
And I've told you before KGjr career may as well been over before setting foot in cincy I hitched about him all the time, not as much as Dunn because Dunn was in the lineup everyday KGjr was on the DL more than he wasn't.

 

[FirstTimer]

People enamored with his HR, OBP, OPS. The fact that people were putting him in the hall as soon as he hits 500 HR's which was inevitable since to quote W2B he was a mortal lock to hit 40 a year and has never had injury concerns.

W2btd
And I've told you before KGjr career may as well been over before setting foot in cincy I hitched about him all the time, not as much as Dunn because Dunn was in the lineup everyday KGjr was on the DL more than he wasn't.

I don't think Fed ever labeled him as that. That's kind of my point. You're displacing all this Dunn rage onto Fed for no real reason.

 

[FedEx227]

Side note I love how "fans" dismiss batting average these days I mean last I knew the still award the batting title to the person with the highest batting average, not the highest slugging percentage or OPS. Avg was a good enough stat to rate Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Willing Mays, ect. but when we talk about Adam Dunn its an overrated stat that no one cares about.

I think home runs were a big part of Babe Ruth's game, no?

They also didn't let blacks in the game for a number of years too and it didn't seem to be a problem. Cap Anson was a great player without having to play against blacks.

 

[nflman2033]

I don't think Fed ever labeled him as that. That's kind of my point. You're displacing all this Dunn rage onto Fed for no real reason.

I said he has always been overrated, and fed said otherwise maybe he is sad it disappointed the Dunn he got this year isn't the Dunn he was hoping for, but if you go back to my initial post in this thread I said unless he is so overrated that he's come all the way around to become underrated its a complete joke to call him underrated. Anyone who wants to contest to Dunn being anything but overrated will always be subject to my Dunn rage, I don't care if they are my favorites poster on here. I have always liked fed, everyone should be happy I am not unleashing my OSU losing rage.

 

[nflman2033]

I think home runs were a big part of Babe Ruth's game, no?

Yeah one part, what's his career batting average, you are not proving anything here.

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah one part, what's his career batting average, you are not proving anything here.

I don't know his career batting average because I couldn't give two shits about an antiqued, out of date statistic that is rarely used in any MLB front office.

 

[FedEx227]

Your the one that brought up winning teams even though he's never played on one

Because teams that win are routinely and consistently built using strong starting pitching, good bullpens and DUN DUN! OPS/power.

 

[FirstTimer]

I don't know his career batting average because I couldn't give two shits about an antiqued, out of date statistic that is rarely used in any MLB front office.

Massive reach.

 

[nflman2033]

I don't know his career batting average because I couldn't give two shits about an antiqued, out of date statistic that is rarely used in any MLB front office.

Funny that they still award the guy with the highest batting average the batting title, seems like MLB would have done something about that.

For over 100 years the stat was relevant, I mean as relevant as stats are, now its meaningless.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yeah one part, what's his career batting average, you are not proving anything here.

Why would Dunn's batting average matter if he was consistently leading the Reds in OBA ever single year?

Sure, I would prefer a single over a walk in most situations, but the name of the game is reaching base!

 

[FedEx227]

Funny that they still award the guy with the highest batting average the batting title, seems like MLB would have done something about that.

For over 100 years the stat was relevant, I mean as relevant as stats are, now its meaningless.

Okay. Cool. It's what they did 100 years ago, so it must be the right thing.

You win.

I'm trying to nurse this sinus infection, do you know where I can get a bag of leeches?

 

[nflman2033]

Why would Dunn's batting average matter if he was consistently leading the Reds in OBA ever single year?

Sure, I would prefer a single over a walk in most situations, but the name of the game is reaching base!

At what point did I say his batting average was my sole reason for being overrated.

I threw it at the end knowing most peoples opinion on the stat is low.

 

[FedEx227]

Massive reach.

Maybe, but there's not many front offices that DON'T employ MBAs these days.

Off the top of my head I can bet that Texas, San Diego, Boston (and now Chicago NL), Oakland, Seattle, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay are all teams that rarely, if ever worry about a players batting average.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Maybe, but there's not many front offices that DON'T employ MBAs these days.

Off the top of my head I can bet that Texas, San Diego, Boston (and now Chicago NL), Oakland, Seattle, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay are all teams that rarely, if ever worry about a players batting average.

Mets, too

 

[nflman2033]

Okay. Cool. It's what they did 100 years ago, so it must be the right thing.

You win.

I'm trying to nurse this sinus infection, do you know where I can get a bag of leeches?

So baseball has advanced to the same degree as medicine in the last 100 years.

 

[FedEx227]

So baseball has advanced to the same degree as medicine in the last 100 years.

a·nal·o·gy   [uh-nal-uh-jee]
noun, plural -gies.

1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
2. similarity or comparability: I see no analogy between your problem and mine.

 

[nflman2033]

Maybe, but there's not many front offices that DON'T employ MBAs these days.

Off the top of my head I can bet that Texas, San Diego, Boston (and now Chicago NL), Oakland, Seattle, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay are all teams that rarely, if ever worry about a players batting average.

Nice and how many world series championships do those organizations have since employing that strategy, I believe the answer is 2 and both from Boston.

 

[nflman2033]

a·nal·o·gy   [uh-nal-uh-jee]
noun, plural -gies.

1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
2. similarity or comparability: I see no analogy between your problem and mine.

Right and how are baseball and medicine "like"?

 

[FedEx227]

Nice and how many world series championships do those organizations have since employing that strategy, I believe the answer is 2 and both from Boston.

You're right, in seven years teams of teams aggressively employing this strategy they have only won 2 championships and taken part in 6 World Series.

Awful.

 

[FedEx227]

Right and how are baseball and medicine "like"?

There were medical practices widely use for hundreds if not thousands of years that have since been debunked and are no longer used in favor of newer, better practices.