NFL's Top 100 Discussion

[Primetime]

Blount really played like an undrafted rookie last year. Hmmmm who else is an undrafted rookie that makes a huge impact......on a superbowl championship team......ever heard of a guy named Tramon Williams. I guess he had a little bit of an impact.

 

[Blick]

:jimshake:

Besides a couple obvious points I'll make:
Matt Ryan has been playing at a high level for 3 full seasons, Josh Freeman has one.
Matt Ryan beat Freeman twice last season (when Freeman did not play well).


Lets look at just the stats:
Ryan threw for more yards and more TDs.
Ryan had a better completion percentage.
Ryan had over 100 more attempts (His offense relied more heavily on him)


Freeman has a better QB Rating (who cares?) and better Yards Per attempt.

I'll go ahead and take Ryan, just based on the stats.

I'd go with 2 good seasons. His 2nd year should be considered medicore to you.

Were they playing one on one? It's a team game. We've already gone over how Tampa's roster isn't very talented.

Comparing Ryan's 3rd year to Freeman's 2nd year is pretty useless. Freeman's 2nd year blows Ryan's 2nd year away.

 

[Blick]

Why are you so hung up on draft position/amatuer resumes?

Once these guys suit up, nobody cares anymore.

Why are you getting so hung up on semantics? The point is, Freeman had a better year than either of those guys and had more to do with the Bucs winning.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'd go with 2 good seasons. His 2nd year should be considered medicore to you.

Were they playing one on one? It's a team game. We've already gone over how Tampa's roster isn't very talented.

Comparing Ryan's 3rd year to Freeman's 2nd year is pretty useless. Freeman's 2nd year blows Ryan's 2nd year away.

For fucks sake.

Ignoring Freemans pitiful rookie year. Again. That Ryan's rookie year shit on and forced Freeman to wipe.

2 good years + one decent year trumps one good year + one horrendous year, no? Is that too logical to wrap your mind around?

Stop trying to frame the facts to fit your argument. I don't even know the point you are trying to make at this point.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Why are you getting so hung up on semantics? The point is, Freeman had a better year than either of those guys and had more to do with the Bucs winning.

I don't know, why do you keep making shit points?

 

[Blick]

For fucks sake.

Ignoring Freemans pitiful rookie year. Again. That Ryan's rookie year shit on and forced Freeman to wipe.

2 good years + one decent year trumps one good year + one horrendous year, no? Is that too logical to wrap your mind around?

Stop trying to frame the facts to fit your argument. I don't even know the point you are trying to make at this point.

I agree, and if you had read an earlier post, you would have seen that I don't think Freeman is better.

Stop being a pussy and make your list of 100 NFC players that are better than Freeman. This argument is getting old.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I agree, and if you had read an earlier post, you would have seen that I don't think Freeman is better.

Stop being a pussy and make your list of 100 NFC players that are better than Freeman. This argument is getting old.

I think I explained on page 2 why I'm not wasting my time doing that. You guys will be in denial about half the list, and I'm not getting into FS vs QB and LG vs QB arguments with you dolts all day. Perennial All Pro's and Pro Bowlers have been shit on by the Freeman side in this thread already, so what's the point?

 

[Blick]

I don't know, why do you keep making shit points?

Like when you said that a RB(which are a dime a dozen) and a receiver were more impactful to Tampa's success than the team captain at QB?

 

[Senser81]

I think I explained on page 2 why I'm not wasting my time doing that. You guys will be in denial about half the list, and I'm not getting into FS vs QB and LG vs QB arguments with you dolts all day. Perennial All Pro's and Pro Bowlers have been shit on by the Freeman side in this thread already, so what's the point?

Exactly. If a guy like Chris Snee gets shit on when he makes his third consecutive pro bowl and was a 1st team All-Pro at his position, what would happen if you put some guy on the list like Aaron Rodgers, who didn't even make the pro bowl last year?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Like when you said that a RB(which are a dime a dozen) and a receiver were more impactful to Tampa's success than the team captain at QB?

TB before those two guys arrived: irrelevent

TB after those two guys arrived: 10 wins

Freeman before those two guys arrived: awful

Freeman after those two guys arrived: top 100 player, better than all pros, 90+ QB rating, second coming of christ, OBL killed

 

[Blick]

TB before those two guys arrived: irrelevent

TB after those two guys arrived: 10 wins

Freeman before those two guys arrived: awful

Freeman after those two guys arrived: top 100 player, better than all pros, 90+ QB rating, second coming of christ, OBL killed

Yep, there you have it, folks. All you need is a RB that barely cracked 1000 yards and a receiver that caught less balls than Jacob Tamme and you got 10 wins.

That's the winning method there.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Ahhhhhh.....forgive my ignorance, but I just now figured out what's going on here...

Freeman went to K-State, didn't he? No wonder Blick is babbling on with circular logic and non points. This is a classic Blick homer thread.

How did I get roped into this?

 

[Blick]

Ahhhhhh.....forgive my ignorance, but I just now figured out what's going on here...

Freeman went to K-State, didn't he? No wonder Blick is babbling on with circular logic and non points. This is a classic Blick homer thread.

How did I get roped into this?

You can't call me a homer when I've trashed Matt Cassel in this thread as well.

Calling it like I see it.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yep, there you have it, folks. All you need is a RB that barely cracked 1000 yards and a receiver that caught less balls than Jacob Tamme and you got 10 wins.

That's the winning method there.

And you accused me of not watching the Bucs?

I'm not even touching this shallow garbage.

 

[Primetime]

BTW, Freeman's best games last year were against Arizona, Carolina, Seattle, and a NO team that rested for the playoffs.

Ryan's top 4 games included Green Bay, the #1 defense in the league, and NO, the #4 passing defense in the league. The others were Carolina and Cincy. Also had a great game against Baltimore.

I'm not saying this is a tell tale sign, but Ryan showed up and put up numbers in a lot more important games.

 

[Senser81]

How did I get roped into this?

I have to ask, for a second time in this thread...This is Poster of the Year material??

 

[Blick]

And you accused me of not watching the Bucs?

I'm not even touching this shallow garbage.

Sorry for letting the facts disturb your argument.

 

[Primetime]

Yep, there you have it, folks. All you need is a RB that barely cracked 1000 yards and a receiver that caught less balls than Jacob Tamme and you got 10 wins.

That's the winning method there.

Blount did it in 11 games. The Bucs beat CLE, CIN, and CAR and lost to PIT and NO in those games. Bucs honestly didn't beat a real good team all year.

EDIT: BTW, Freeman only had a passer rating over 100 once without Blount, and that was against the Panthers. Sure doesn't seem like Blount made a huge impact.....

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Sorry for letting the facts disturb your argument.

What facts?

Like the fact TB was garbage before those guys arrived, and won 10 games after they arrived? Like the fact Freeman looked like shit until those guys showed up?

You are truly the worst.

 

[Blick]

What facts?

Like the fact TB was garbage before those guys arrived, and won 10 games after they arrived? Like the fact Freeman looked like shit until those guys showed up?

You are truly the worst.

Barely cracked 1000 yards...Blount had 1007.

Tamme had 67 receptions...Wililiams had 65.

Facts, motherfucker, do you speak them?

Or are you going to tell me Matt Cassel has 3 very good seasons under his belt again?