[PS3] Official PSN discussion thread

[leaffan]

:jonesy:

This might be one of the worst security breaches I've seen in a while.

Seriously for the dudes here if you have the same password for PSN as you do for other things go ahead and change them.

 

[Twigg4075]

to clear things up though, PSN is not free as it is an advertised feature of the PS3, its built into the price

So, what does that say about the 360 then? It's the same price yet doesn't have bluray and you still have to pay for Live? We're paying for dedicated servers on 360 then, right? Oh wait.

Have I mentioned how much I love hackers? I'm so glad they are working for us and protecting our rights and not just stealing shit. *extreme sarcasm*

 

[Prodigal Son]

Good thing Sony let you guys know all your information was leaked 6 days later.

 

[padman59]

I would like to give a hearty "Fuck You" to GeoHot and anyone else distributing the tools that allow people to do this shit as well as Sony for having shit security measures.

 

[Virix]

Sony stay fuckin up

 

[Rayman]

I smell a class-action suit

 

[CCBrink]

:iaintevenmad: though

 

[Misogi]

I smell a class-action suit

Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal is "demanding answers" about why Sony Computer Entertainment of America failed to inform customers of the data breach of the PlayStation Network on April 20.

"When a data breach occurs, it is essential that customers be immediately notified about whether and to what extent their personal and financial information has been compromised," Blumenthal said in a release. "Compounding this concern is the troubling lack of notification from Sony about the nature of the data breach."

Of course, Sony just issued a statement that it says will be emailed to "all of our registered account holders" but, as we noted in our post, it's been nearly six days since the "intrusion" first took place. Blumenthal elaborated, "Although the breach occurred nearly a week ago, Sony has not notified customers of the intrusion, or provided information that is vital to allowing individuals to protect themselves from identity theft, such as informing users whether their personal or financial information may have been compromised."

Sen. Blumenthal also sent a letter to SCEA President and CEO Jack Tretton, which can be found after the break.

April 26, 2011

Mr. Jack Tretton
President and CEO
Sony Computer Entertainment America
919 East Hillsdale Boulevard
Foster City, CA USA 94404

Dear Mr. Tretton:

I am writing regarding a recent data breach of Sony's PlayStation Network service. I am troubled by the failure of Sony to immediately notify affected customers of the breach and to extend adequate financial data security protections.

It has been reported that on April 20, 2011, Sony's PlayStation Network suffered an "external intrusion" and was subsequently disabled. News reports estimate that 50 million to 75 million consumers – many of them children – access the PlayStation Network for video and entertainment. I understand that the PlayStation Network allows users to store credit card information online to facilitate the purchasing of content such as games and movies through the PlayStation Network. A breach of such a widely used service immediately raises concerns of data privacy, identity theft, and other misuse of sensitive personal and financial data, such as names, email addresses, and credit and debit card information.

When a data breach occurs, it is essential that customers be immediately notified about whether and to what extent their personal and financial information has been compromised. Additionally, PlayStation Network users should be provided with financial data security services, including free access to credit reporting services, for two years, the costs of which should be borne by Sony. Affected individuals should also be provided with sufficient insurance to protect them from the possible financial consequences of identity theft.

I am concerned that PlayStation Network users' personal and financial information may have been inappropriately accessed by a third party. Compounding this concern is the troubling lack of notification from Sony about the nature of the data breach. Although the breach occurred nearly a week ago, Sony has not notified customers of the intrusion, or provided information that is vital to allowing individuals to protect themselves from identity theft, such as informing users whether their personal or financial information may have been compromised. Nor has Sony specified how it intends to protect these consumers.

PlayStation Network users deserve more complete information on the data breach, as well as the assurance that their personal and financial information will be securely maintained. I appreciate your prompt response on this important issue.

Sincerely,

/s/

Richard Blumenthal
United States Senate

tl;dr dead on the money.

 

[Spidey]

Good thing Sony let you guys know all your information was leaked 6 days later.

This is what aggravates me. I'm assuming Sony knew the personal data was taken days ago. Thats something they should be informing everyone about immediately. I cant even fathom the logic internally at Sony that would make them wait. People are gonna find out, what solid logic is there to wait to tell people. The only outcome there is more trouble.

As for the entire situation, assuming he wasn't involved in the hacking and stealing of data, I don't really blame GeoHot. All he did was break through and open up the console. Same shit happens to just about every device and no one complains. How may people hear have jailbroken iphones, rooted droids, modded 360s, etc... On the flip side though, I don't blame Sony for going after him. He had to know the risks when getting into this type of stuff.

I blame Sony for having shitty security and groups like Anonymous for pulling these type of attacks. Didn't really care about them taking down the network for a day a couple weeks back. Whatever, companies/sites get attacked and taken down all the time. However, if they are behind stealing personal data, I definitely have an issue with that. I am curious to see if this was their work or some other group. Anonymous has given me the impression that they are simply out for revenge against Sony and would not involve the users. As of now they are denying any involvement.

 

[Leftwich]

PP, this is a gaming/sports website so the majority of our posters are big gamers. I understand you have some sort of opinion of this but jesus shut the fuck up. If you don't want to hear what they have to say then don't fucking read it.

 

[BrntO4Life]

EPIC FAIL doesn't even begin to describe Sony's network infrastructure.

Is that company run by rednecks on an airboat in the Everglades?

 

[Maynard]

How soon people forget about Xbox Live going down for several days in late 2008, around xmas time at that. When everyone wanted to jump online and play the new presents they received, they couldn't. And people were PAYING for that service.

And what did MS do? They gave us one crappy XBLA game, Undertow. Big fucking whoop.

nah man....that was a slowdown. it never was down. i remember that vividly specifiaclly because you seemed to have the slow down last alot longer then most people on whatever site we were using back then. It was never down though during that time you mentioned.

there is a huge difference too. you know what the problem is. they basically allowed their network to be completely exposed in a way that cant not be fixed by rebuilding the network. Sure they can rebuild all they want. But it will onjly be a matter of time before they get hacked again.

When u give away the keys to the castle, the only solution is to change the locks. Locks cant be patched....they must be replaced

is sony going to replace every system? i think not.....this system is exposed for the remainder of its life. ps3 owners will deal with this until next gen

 

[Spidey]

IMO, its pretty naive to think this couldn't happen to any of the gaming console networks if the right people are motivated. Sony just pissed off the wrong people apparently...

That said, hopefully the other networks and their owners would be more responsible in handling it if it did happen.

 

[Virix]

nah man....that was a slowdown. it never was down. i remember that vividly specifiaclly because you seemed to have the slow down last alot longer then most people on whatever site we were using back then. It was never down though during that time you mentioned.

QFT. It was laggy as all hell, and would disconnect you but the network wasnt down for weeks like some people claim.

 

[BrntO4Life]

IMO, its pretty naive to think this couldn't happen to any of the gaming console networks if the right people are motivated. Sony just pissed off the wrong people apparently...

There's a huge difference between "could" and "has". Until LIVE actually gets hacked, it doesn't matter.

 

[EmpireWF]

Fuck, don't remember my PSN password. I think I know, but it may be another one I use.

Fuck.

Need to check which card I have associated with it too...

Can't check till it comes back though.....fuckin PSN.

 

[krulmichael]

So in a nutshell we should switch our PSN passwords and keep an eye on our account which our credit card is associated with?

 

[EmpireWF]

So in a nutshell we should switch our PSN passwords and keep an eye on our account which our credit card is associated with?

Once PSN comes back on, yes.

If you use the PSN password elsewhere, change those too.

Plus watch out for any phishing scams whether it's in the snail mail, e-mail, telephone, whatever the fuck.

 

[Spidey]

There's a huge difference between "could" and "has". Until LIVE actually gets hacked, it doesn't matter.

I don't disagree. I'm not trying to tear down Live or defend PSN. I've got both but barely use either online anymore. Just meant that this type of stuff can happen to anyone if there are people motivated enough to do it.

As an analogy, there is the notion of Macs being safer than PCs. Its not true. The PC is just targeted significantly more than the PC. In this situation, hypothetically, Sony may have had a more advanced security than Live. But it pissed off a large and talented group of hackers. Those hackers then focus on Sony.

I doubt Sony's security is more advanced though. This is definitely a black eye for Sony. And I have a feeling is going to look even worse as anger grows about the wait to inform of the stolen data.

 

[leaffan]

How soon people forget about Xbox Live going down for several days in late 2008, around xmas time at that. When everyone wanted to jump online and play the new presents they received, they couldn't. And people were PAYING for that service.

And what did MS do? They gave us one crappy XBLA game, Undertow. Big fucking whoop.

Want some more cheese with that whine?

Comparing a network slow down because they weren't ready for the amount of traffic to hit their network vs sony totally shitting the bed and now your information might be floating around with a few million other peoples info on some nerds computer because sony is pretty stupid is really dumb. You're starting to get into chodite levels on fanboyism.