[PS3] Official PSN discussion thread

[leaffan]

I don't disagree. I'm not trying to tear down Live or defend PSN. I've got both but barely use either online anymore. Just meant that this type of stuff can happen to anyone if there are people motivated enough to do it.

As an analogy, there is the notion of Macs being safer than PCs. Its not true. The PC is just targeted significantly more than the PC. In this situation, hypothetically, Sony may have had a more advanced security than Live. But it pissed off a large and talented group of hackers. Those hackers then focus on Sony.

I doubt Sony's security is more advanced though. This is definitely a black eye for Sony. And I have a feeling is going to look even worse as anger grows about the wait to inform of the stolen data.

Sony's security is pretty bad when all it takes is a person to flash a ps3 with some ripped off rom and the dev part of their back end opens up which leads to the ability to see everyone's information. That just sounds like a bunch of lazy people to me.

 

[Spidey]

Sony's security is pretty bad when all it takes is a person to flash a ps3 with some ripped off rom and the dev part of their back end opens up which leads to the ability to see everyone's information. That just sounds like a bunch of lazy people to me.

Completely agree. And I am not trying to defend Sony. They look ridiculous in this situation on multiple levels.

Maybe my point is being missed but I am not sure how else to phrase it. Oh well, either way. As you mentioned earlier, change your password folks. This will likely be a good lesson for many not to use the same password for everything. Something most of us know but many don't follow.

 

[leaffan]

On the plus side anytime someone says something about vsn servers he can point to sony and said they do it to

:smughard:

 

[BrntO4Life]

Completely agree. And I am not trying to defend Sony. They look ridiculous in this situation on multiple levels.

Maybe my point is being missed but I am not sure how else to phrase it. Oh well, either way. As you mentioned earlier, change your password folks. This will likely be a good lesson for many not to use the same password for everything. Something most of us know but many don't follow.

I got your point, I just think you're incorrect.

It's not like people haven't tried to hack LIVE. Microsoft has to deal with modding and JTAGed 360s, but no one has gotten into their system that they couldn't kick out.

Prior to Sony removing Linux, hackers had no reason to try and get into the system because they had their own OS to screw around in.

In short, SCEA/J is ruled by an enormous amount of incompetence.

 

[krulmichael]

Once PSN comes back on, yes.

If you use the PSN password elsewhere, change those too.

Plus watch out for any phishing scams whether it's in the snail mail, e-mail, telephone, whatever the fuck.

I'm hoping even if info was comprised, that the guys that did hack into it just did it to piss Sony off and not actually steal people's shit. But then again, if it's there, why not? You're already doing something illegal, might as well do as much damage as you can. Fingers crossed though.

 

[BigBucs]

So in a nutshell we should switch our PSN passwords and keep an eye on our account which our credit card is associated with?

Might as well not fuck around. I just called and had my bank cancel the current card number linked to my account and issue me a new one with a new number.

 

[killgod]

Hope whoever stole all the passwords lets me know what it is, I have it auto saved and haven't a clue what the fuck it is.

Oh well.

And I don't care if they rob my platinum mastercard, I don't have to pay for stolen usage so have fun and fuck bitches.

 

[Spidey]

I got your point, I just think you're incorrect.

It's not like people haven't tried to hack LIVE. Microsoft has to deal with modding and JTAGed 360s, but no one has gotten into their system that they couldn't kick out.

Prior to Sony removing Linux, hackers had no reason to try and get into the system because they had their own OS to screw around in.

In short, SCEA/J is ruled by an enormous amount of incompetence.

Pretty much agree. Of course attempts have been made on Microsoft and Live. Thus far they they have faired much better. Not sure to what extent attempts have been made but I think its obvious they have better security than Sony and Sony has proven incompetent.

I guess I just don't think anyone is safe if the desire is there. Sony seemed safe. Clearly they weren't. But as you said earlier, thats the difference between has and could.

 

[BigBucs]

:rage:http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/116/1163826p1.html

 

[Helicopter]

Wow! I was fine with this whole "outage" thing until the blurb about the possibility of personal and financial information being compromised. Not too happy about that.

I went ahead and changed all my passwords (except for PSN, of course) and canceled my card associated with PSN and ordered a new one. I guess thats about all I can do for now.

I wish there was an alternative gaming solution, but for me, there isn't. IF the PS3/PSN ceased to exist...I still wouldn't buy a 5th Xbox360.

Sony doesn't look good in any of this. Could've handled it much better than they have.

 

[CCBrink]

:rage:http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/116/1163826p1.html

:smh:

 

[Herm]

I had $6.75 in my playstation store wallet, if hackers got it good for them. Im hoping that i deleted my CC info off of there long ago, i think i did.

 

[KNUBB]

I know I deleted my stuff a long time ago because I was having issues with my card on the PSN. So I started buying PSN cards

 

[PP]

Who cares if they steal your card? Thats the whole point of a credit card... you won't be charged.. the fraud protection will cover you... now a debit card is a different story...

 

[killgod]

You can hook a debit card up to your PSN account?

Odd. I wouldn't do that even before this nonsense came about. That card is direct access to your bank account, fuck that noise.

 

[SethMode]

Who cares if they steal your card? Thats the whole point of a credit card... you won't be charged.. the fraud protection will cover you... now a debit card is a different story...

Sometimes I really think that you're completely retarded. Are you REALLY trying to spin this as if it ISN'T a big deal just because there is a certain amount of fraud protection on credit cards?

 

[Helicopter]

Who cares if they steal your card? Thats the whole point of a credit card... you won't be charged.. the fraud protection will cover you... now a debit card is a different story...

Therein lies my problem. I wouldn't be worried about it if it were my credit card on file instead. I'm the idiot for using my debit card to begin with, but its just so much easier for me to keep track of online.

 

[SethMode]

You can hook a debit card up to your PSN account?

Odd. I wouldn't do that even before this nonsense came about. That card is direct access to your bank account, fuck that noise.

You can use most if not all bank cards as credit cards, and most banks have fraud protection that is just as good. Still, it's not good regardless, because depending on the circumstance of your personal life it could also negatively effect your credit score.

 

[killgod]

You can use most if not all bank cards as credit cards, and most banks have fraud protection that is just as good. Still, it's not good regardless, because depending on the circumstance of your personal life it could also negatively effect your credit score.

How could it be negative towards your score?

 

[Maynard]

Who cares if they steal your card? Thats the whole point of a credit card... you won't be charged.. the fraud protection will cover you... now a debit card is a different story...

fanboy much?