Sick in the head (Pain acknowledged and denied, in the NFL, NHL and in general)

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Because you can watch playoff hockey, see less fights and notice little to no difference. Stars aren't being taken out. Buildings aren't burning down. The world isn't ending. When you watch olympic hockey..if you do..does the nature of the game seem different or worse? There's no fighting there. If you see any game without a fight does anythign seem "off"? Is it less of a game? No. Fighting "supporters" like leaffan already admit fighting is going away...and they don't seem concerned that hockey will cease to exist or the game will be worse.

I don't think anyone claimed anarchy or disaster. Just that it changes the complexion of the sport. I can still watch NFL games and most would say little to no difference. But I most certainly have seen it and its fundamentally changed the game and eliminated a position (style of position to be specific)
I think those arguing for would say the same for hockey.

 

[killgod]

Surveys done by the NHL Players’ Association show the majority of the NHL’s 740 players want to keep fighting in the game.

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Some americans who've never played the sport in their life.

 

[NAHSTE]

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Some americans who've never played the sport in their life.

I think the issue is that it should not be left up to the players. Just like eliminating helmet to helmet hits in the NFL should not be left up to the players, because they are largely incapable of looking at this situation rationally.

Here it is, one more time for the reading impaired:

HEAD TRAUMA IS BAD. FIGHTING CONTRIBUTES TO HEAD TRAUMA. THEREFORE, FIGHTING IS BAD.

 

[Ravin]

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Some americans who've never played the sport in their life.

 

[RosettaStoned]

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Some americans who've never played the sport in their life.

Irrelevant.

 

[killgod]

I think the issue is that it should not be left up to the players. Just like eliminating head shots in the NFL should not be left up to the players.

Not comparable.

A fight is agreed upon, a h2h hit is not.

This is why the NHL is policing headshots, not fighting, nor does the league have any desire to, because the NHL understands it's own game.

 

[NAHSTE]

Oh yeah let's totally glorify a guy who celebrates in a douchey manner after he permanently damages someone else's brain. Let's totally do that.

COOL!

Not comparable.

A fight is agreed upon, a h2h hit is not.

This is why the NHL is policing headshots, not fighting, nor does the league have any desire to, because the NHL understands it's own game.

Erm, okay... But I think the NHL should probably eliminate all instances that could potentially lead to brain trauma.

 

[killgod]

Irrelevant.

Thanks for making another appearance derpina. Your insight is widely appreciated.

 

[Ravin]

Oh yeah let's totally glorify a guy who just celebrated permanently damaging someone else's brain. Let's totally do that.

COOL!

MMA and boxing do the same thing but of course because that is the "sport" it is perfectly ok.

 

[NAHSTE]

MMA and boxing do the same thing but of course because that is the "sport" it is perfectly ok.

Oh you are right since I am a huge MMA and boxing fan and have been defending those sports fervently. And that totally excuses that repulsive behavior when an NHL player does it.

Durrrrrrr ....

Hockey should eliminate fighting. It is part of the game, but it needs to be part of the game's past, knowing what we know now about brain trauma.

 

[RosettaStoned]

MMA and boxing do the same thing but of course because that is the "sport" it is perfectly ok.

Yes because they are almost the same...


BRB comparing two dopes who aren't good at hockey, and suck ass at fighting throwing down for little reason, to two people who train to fight and defend themselves for a living.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yes because they are almost the same...


BRB comparing two dopes who aren't good at hockey, and suck ass at fighting throwing down for little reason, to two people who train to fight and defend themselves for a living.

Ahem ... IT FIRES UP THE TEAM ...

Since no other athlete in any other professional sport can get FIRED UP on their own accord ... only the barbarian hockey players can get FIRED UP ... but not until they see their teammate fight someone.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Ahem ... IT FIRES UP THE TEAM ...

Since no other athlete in any other professional sport can get FIRED UP on their own accord... only the barbarian hockey players can get FIRED UP ... but not until they see their teammate fight someone.

I get fired up watching Glee.

 

[Sigona]

How can you say this wouldn't get you "fired up"?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5sdOh7Bcvs&feature=relmfu"]Rick DiPietro vs Brent Johnson Feb 2, 2011 - YouTube[/ame]

FWIW, Americans are completely retarded when it comes to hockey unless they play it or follow regularly; I used to be one of them until I became cultured on the sport and started to play a few months ago.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1692
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/5905

Zenon Konopka. 69 fights since 2009. Time missed because of a concussion? 0 days.
Sidney Crosby. 5 fights since 2007. Time missed because of a concussion? 8+ Months.

There's more concussions caused by anything else in hockey BESIDES fighting. Guys like Crosby, Milan Michalek, Alfredsson, guys who have missed time because of a concussions don't even fight. To say that fighting should be banned is just plain dumb.

 

[RosettaStoned]

How can you say this wouldn't get you "fired up"?

Rick DiPietro vs Brent Johnson Feb 2, 2011 - YouTube

FWIW, Americans are completely retarded when it comes to hockey unless they play it or follow regularly; I used to be one of them until I became cultured on the sport and started to play a few months ago.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1692
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/5905

Zenon Konopka. 69 fights since 2009. Time missed because of a concussion? 0 days.
Sidney Crosby. 5 fights since 2007. Time missed because of a concussion? 8+ Months.

There's more concussions caused by anything else in hockey BESIDES fighting. Guys like Crosby, Milan Michalek, Alfredsson, guys who have missed time because of a concussions don't even fight. To say that fighting should be banned is just plain dumb.

Good jobe at reading the thread. Bravo.

 

[NAHSTE]

FWIW, Americans are completely retarded when it comes to hockey unless they play it or follow regularly; I used to be one of them until I became cultured on the sport and started to play a few months ago.

LOL. #humblebrag

(girly voice) "Look at me, I'm Sigona, I'm cultured on hockey and stuff"

Zenon Konopka. 69 fights since 2009. Time missed because of a concussion? 0 days.
Sidney Crosby. 5 fights since 2007. Time missed because of a concussion? 8+ Months.

Derek Boogard. Lots of fucking fights, lots of fucking concussions. Lots of life missed because of concussions.

There's more concussions caused by anything else in hockey BESIDES fighting.

:facepalm:

Oh really? DID NOT KNOW THIS.

How about this ... let's try to prevent ALL things that could possibly cause concussive or sub-concussive injuries to the players' brain. That includes the dirty hits which are now strictly enforced, and yes, PUNCHING EACH OTHER IN THE FACE ...

Guys like Crosby, Milan Michalek, Alfredsson, guys who have missed time because of a concussions don't even fight. To say that fighting should be banned is just plain dumb.

Which obviously proves something. Oh wait, it doesn't. Correlation does not equal causation, unless you suck at thinking and/or post at VSN.

To say that fighting should be banned is just plain dumb.

No, to say that it shouldn't be banned runs counter to A. logic and B. the league wide campaign to stop head injuries.

 

[leaffan]

Is that all the two of you have reduced to?


4 hours ago, "hey FT lets go troll some retards"

next 4 hours "you fucking faggot are stupid" rinse/repeat + random gif.


YOUVE BEEN TROLLED.


No wonder it's no longer amusing around here, the trolls suck.

They don't understand the game its plain and simple. Taking fighting out of the nhl would introduce a variety of problems that are seen even in the olympics. Id actually go over some of the points but realistically most of the guys who are against it are fairly retarded and it wouldn't sink into their skulls.

 

[DSpydr84]

How can you say this wouldn't get you "fired up"?

Rick DiPietro vs Brent Johnson Feb 2, 2011 - YouTube

Not trolling, that video actually made me lol. Not at all inspiring.

EDIT: It's funny how some of the hockey guys are saying "others don't know anything about the sport", yet the announcer in that video was saying that he didn't know what DiPietro was doing and that there was no reason for it.

 

[leaffan]

Good god nahste is a retard.

 

[NAHSTE]

They don't understand the game its plain and simple. Taking fighting out of the nhl would introduce a variety of problems that are seen even in the olympics. Id actually go over some of the points but realistically most of the guys who are against it are fairly retarded and it wouldn't sink into their skulls.

I'm actually pretty into hockey, unlike FT might be, so I'd be interested to hear what problems are seen in the Olympics. I enjoyed the hell out of the last tournament.

I'm obviously a casual fan but I am fairly open minded about the game and try to absorb as much info as you holier than thou Canucks are willing to toss my way.

So please, enlighten me on what problems can be found with fighting-free Olympic hockey.