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[PC] Star Wars: Old Republic

Beta testing weekends will begin in September.

BioWare is almost ready to let wider audiences into their new Star Wars MMO. Will you be among the lucky ones?

Electronic Arts today announced that Star Wars: The Old Republic will begin to have Beta Test Weekends in September. The discrete play sessions will be available to select players, and will offer a sneak peek at some of the game's classes, quests, and other content. If you want to throw your hat in the ring as a potential beta tester, you can sign up at the game's official website. As announced earlier today, the game is also now available for preorder, and EA promises early access to the game for those who are willing to take the plunge.

For everyone else, it doesn't look like you'll have too long to wait. Bioware co-founder Ray Muzyka says the game will be one of the "biggest launches of holiday 2011," which seems to confirm suspicions that the game will be publicly available before the end of the year. He also mentions a pretty sneaky concept to convince you of the importance of pre-ordering. "We are taking all of the necessary steps to make sure The Old Republic has a thriving community built on a stable online foundation from day one, including limiting supply at launch to ensure that players easily transition into the servers," Muzyka says. To put it another way, Bioware thinks demand is going to be so high that you might not be able to get in on the ground floor if you don't ensure your position now. Sounds a little suspicious to us. That said, pre-ordering the game is likely to help BioWare set an appropriate number of servers, which will benefit all players come launch day.

Here's hoping that launch goes smoothly. There are a lot of MMO and Star Wars fans alike that have a lot riding on the new game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/07/21/old-republic-beta-starts-in-september.aspx
 
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A few of my friends are in the Beta and from what I've seen and what they have said, the game is average at best. It might be fun for people to go through one play through to level cap, but for those of us who play MMOs and love end game content, there is little to be excited about.
 
A few of my friends are in the Beta and from what I've seen and what they have said, the game is average at best. It might be fun for people to go through one play through to level cap, but for those of us who play MMOs and love end game content, there is little to be excited about.

How are they in the beta? I just read a couple articles yesterday that said the beta doesn't start until September.
 
A few of my friends are in the Beta and from what I've seen and what they have said, the game is average at best. It might be fun for people to go through one play through to level cap, but for those of us who play MMOs and love end game content, there is little to be excited about.

Really eh? I do get that feeling from all I've seen too.

I'm very back and forth if I want to try this or not. EA seems to think they got this shit in the bag with their pre-order message saying "buy now or you may not get in at launch". That's bold as fucking hell to say.

Their hope is story is going to drive the game, but personally epic story or not, people don't play MMO's for story do they? I'd say they play for social interaction, adventure/exploration and epenis growth things like PvP and getting phat loots.

I hope I can get in one of the next stages of Beta to try it out myself.
 
Really eh? I do get that feeling from all I've seen too.

I'm very back and forth if I want to try this or not. EA seems to think they got this shit in the bag with their pre-order message saying "buy now or you may not get in at launch". That's bold as fucking hell to say.

Their hope is story is going to drive the game, but personally epic story or not, people don't play MMO's for story do they? I'd say they play for social interaction, adventure/exploration and epenis growth things like PvP and getting phat loots.

I hope I can get in one of the next stages of Beta to try it out myself.

I'll bet they think the users will want the KOTOR2 game mixed into an MMORPG format, and that's just now how it works. The users are just different than the buy a game off the shelf and run through it once or twice crowd. I really liked the KOTOR2 game, it was pretty good. I had fun with it, and wanted more. But I just don't know if it's going to translate into the game.

The only scene I've witnessed that even suggested this might have more end game content or a deeper storyarch, was the Sith Inquisitor video I posted. Go back and check that video out. You'll see the chick walk up to what looks to be some mayor or political figurehead, whispers in his ear, and looks like she did some crazy mind-control and he turned on the Jedi. Check it out. So I think that suggests that there will be plenty of NPC's in the galaxy to interact with, storylines, etc. Maybe the galaxy won't be complete yet, but I'll bet over time the galaxy will get more and more full of in depth story.
 
My problem with this game from the outset is that it is an MMO. I realize that that is my own preference, but that's really all I have to go on. WoW is really the only remotely good MMO I've ever played, and I'd call that an average at best gaming experience. I guess I just don't get the genre and never will. I just wish they would have done KoTOR 3 instead of this. Although who knows, if this fails, maybe they WILL do KoTOR 3 to make up for it.
 
My problem with this game from the outset is that it is an MMO. I realize that that is my own preference, but that's really all I have to go on. WoW is really the only remotely good MMO I've ever played, and I'd call that an average at best gaming experience. I guess I just don't get the genre and never will. I just wish they would have done KoTOR 3 instead of this. Although who knows, if this fails, maybe they WILL do KoTOR 3 to make up for it.

Its possible, but since they are writing a novel to tie up what happens to Revan and the Exile, I doubt it.

I also wanted to address killgod's point. Yes, they are relying heavily on their story, and also the fact that this is a Star Wars game. That's a huge selling point, and this game could be very similar to The Force Unleashed series. Good graphics, good story but really banking on it being Star Wars and nothing more. That's been the problem with this franchise as a whole (except novels) for quite a few years now.
 
December 20th is the release date

Still not sure how I feel about this. I loved the story and environment of KOTOR and KOTOR II. I hated the turn based combat.

Not sure I want to be "chained" to a guild in order to complete a game.
 
Its possible, but since they are writing a novel to tie up what happens to Revan and the Exile, I doubt it.

I also wanted to address killgod's point. Yes, they are relying heavily on their story, and also the fact that this is a Star Wars game. That's a huge selling point, and this game could be very similar to The Force Unleashed series. Good graphics, good story but really banking on it being Star Wars and nothing more. That's been the problem with this franchise as a whole (except novels) for quite a few years now.

im in the beta and they may tie it up in a book but it ends in the game. it's a story driven mmo. the ability to go dark/light like in kotor for choices makes the side quests interesting but the beef of the game is in each classes story. it's not as wow-esque as people like to say, although if you read the forums everyone and their mother is trying to turn it into wow. its a solid game in my opinion and its an MMO so if you dont like grouping why bother playing an mmo? wow is there for solo play with its random retard finder and coming soon random raid retard finder, where u never see a person again so your actions do not matter.
 
Just finished the novel. I'm putting it in spoiler tags, so if you just want to find out what happens to Revan and the Exile, read on. Though I encourage you to read the book, and the other two books that are setting up for the release of the game. They are introducing major characters that you might come across.

 
The book is separated into two parts. The first is focusing on the time when Revan leaves Bastila to go with Canderous to find Mandalore's mask. It ends with Canderous becoming Mandalore, and Revan going to a planet that was utterly consumed by the hidden Sith Empire's Emperor. You also find out that by consuming this planet, it made the Emperor invincible. This part ends with the capture of Revan by a member of the Dark Council and another Sith Lord, who are plotting to overthrow the Emperor.

The second part is almost immediately after the events of KOTOR 2. The Exile sets out to find Revan, eventually coming across the planet where he is being held. We also find out that the Sith Emperor had held Revan and Malak prisoner for a time, and used the Force to control their mind and send them back to attack the Republic.

The other Sith Lord helps the Exile rescue Revan, and betrays his master to the Emperor to buy time to confront the Emperor. Revan is defeated by the Emperor, and the Sith Lord who helped him escape turns on them and stabs the Exile in the back, killing her. The Emperor believes his lie of another double-cross, and makes him immortal in turn (introducing what may be an important character in the game.)

Revan is still alive at the end of the book, and it is specifically said that he is being held in stasis where he is not affected by time or space. However, the Emperor has established a mental bond with him that goes both ways at times, and is attempting to break Revan. The Exile did not become one with the Force, and is instead somehow tied to Revan for support. Epilogue consists of estabishing that Revan's son married and started a family, and did not become a Jedi, but a politician (and that could be establishing another character somewhere in the game or later in other EU stories.)

TL/DR: Exile is dead, Revan is held in stasis and not dead.

I imagine his status in stasis will be cleared up by the game somehow, but the author did state that this is the conclusion for the story in a statement before the book begins so I would take it as it being concluded.

Any questions or clarification, ask away.
 
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