The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

Not much.

WWE fucked up on work visas so the only guy worth a damn in the NXT angle besides Danielson, Wade Barrett, is up in the air. Apparently it's near worked out and he may be back VERY soon, but who knows... the angle would wither away without him in my opinion.

 

[IamMedellin]

rumors about Heyman in TNA...

maybe?

 

[SHOGUN]

so...anything going around of note?

NJPW's Best of Super Jrs.

Fucking awesome matches.

 

[JayDizzle]

So... tonight is the night "The Nexus" will learn the consequences of their actions apparently.

After beating the shit out of Cena, merking Uncle Vince and putting Ricky Steamboat in the hospital legitimately, I could see WWE Creative fucking this up.

At the very least, they might be involved in the official Money-in-the-Bank match for the upcoming PPV if not acting as unofficial Lumberjacks for the Cena/Sheamus cage match.

I doubt it though.

I smell suspensions or Triple H coming back early to squash them out of the promotion.

 

[JayDizzle]

After watching RAW:

So... the Nexus aren't allowed any title shots for the next 3 months, they can hit anyone they want again and they've finally made their "point":

Get the attention of the WWE 'Higher Ups.'

Considering they waxed the guy who fucking owns the company, the plan's a little flawed.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMARjKR2KdM"]Go to about 2:20[/ame]

Also, they're trying to recruit current RAW dudes by way of alliances (sound familiar?) so as to further their agenda... basically if they are on the side of the champion that they helped win, it's all gravy.

World Champs by Proxy, I suppose.

Unfortunately, since John Cena was such a bitchass about not wanting to create a truce with The Nexus, this storyline will drag on for a few more PPVs... to prove it, Cena now has to fight all of The Nexus (minus Bryan Danielson) in a 7-on-1 handicap match next week.

...oh wait, make that 6-on-1 since he fucking gorilla-fucked the guy who looks like a Troll Doll with the STF-U and some thrown ring steps into the poor guy's head.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRTX6lmSrak"]Darren Young, Cena's Bitch[/ame]

Seriously? Danielson can't choke a guy on live TV but Cena can decapitate Nexus members because he's on his period?

Fuck that.

If you want me to care about this shit, have these NXT rookies put Cena on the shelf and ruin the PPV.

 

[SHOGUN]

Jim Coronette's rants = absolutely hilarious.

 

[Nature Boy]

Jim Coronette's rants = absolutely hilarious.

I think this sums things up perfectly (by Jim Cornette from the Q&A section of jimcornette.com):


Quote:
The rise of UFC in particular and MMA in general has shown that people have a desire to strip away the hokey bullshit and get back down to the base of it--two guys are gonna fight, who's gonna win? Whether it's "real" or not is about number 5 on the list of reasons the UFC is kicking wrestling's ass. People want to see two guys, charismatic, colorful, and athletic, engage in an exciting contest with flashy moves or hard strikes ending with one guy winning, sometimes in a controversial fashion and often necessitating a rematch. That describes both MMA and pro wrestling. They will pay to see that when properly promoted. They will watch sports entertainment on TV for free, but it's getting harder and harder to get people to get attached enough to "sports entertainment", presented outright as scripted entertainment and generally comedic in nature, to buy it on PPV or at the arenas.

 

[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b9ZQWVjvdw"]YouTube- Jim Cornette - Fuck Off Dixie!![/ame]

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah I listen to Cornette every week on Who's Slamming Who is always great stuff.

I thought last night's Raw was pretty good although I'm not a huge fan of Cena's comedy though.

 

[SHOGUN]

Sarita = :wub:

Sorry, Gail, you've just been downgraded.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

YouTube- Jim Cornette - Fuck Off Dixie!!

LOL.

That is gold.

Mostly...because its true.

I haven't really watched TNA, because well...its terrible...but Cornette hits everything on the head...Dixie is an uber mark. She is a mark playing wrestling with daddy's money.

Scott Hall wouldn't draw you a dime at this point. None of these old WCW bastards would draw you a single penny.

 

[IamMedellin]

" Just finished watching the LOST series. Better late than never. I am more lost than ever but loved it. Not everything needs to make sense."

- Dixie Carter, This Morning on Facebook….

 

[EmpireWF]

" Just finished watching the LOST series. Better late than never. I am more lost than ever but loved it. Not everything needs to make sense."

- Dixie Carter, This Morning on Facebook….

fuck her

LOST makes sense. Sorry if her pea-brain can't comprehend it all.

And she's HORRIBLE at handling her pappa's $$$ via TNA.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

" Just finished watching the LOST series. Better late than never. I am more lost than ever but loved it. Not everything needs to make sense."

- Dixie Carter, This Morning on Facebook….

empire, you missed the irony.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

TNA was drawing the same (and even slightly higher ratings) with a fraction of the payroll many years ago.

The only "big names" that have come in and made a difference for business, were Sting (record ratings early on) and Kurt Angle (biggest PPV buyrates ever vs. Samoa Joe...remember when that guy mattered?!).

Hulk Hogan popped one (maybe two, I dont remember) decent rating on his first Impact, but he doesnt really count because business actually ended up worse a few weeks later than before he came in.

Booker T & Team 3D caused some buzz and made minor differences if I recall, but nothing that lasted long term or ultimately mattered.

RVD has meant nothing. Christian left a bigger star than when he came (they did get him over), but meant nothing for business. Nash, Hall, Rikishi (L-O-L), even Flair, none of them have meant anything (think about that for a minute, RIC FLAIR).

Not that AJ Styles or Daniels or James Storm or Jeff Jarrett or whoever were doing any sort of business either, but it was a fraction of the cost before, and I bet with a roster not full of WCW ego, you could more easily get poeple like Heyman or Cornette excited about the product, and give it a real go.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

TNA was drawing the same (and even slightly higher ratings) with a fraction of the payroll many years ago.

The only "big names" that have come in and made a difference for business, were Sting (record ratings early on) and Kurt Angle (biggest PPV buyrates ever vs. Samoa Joe...remember when that guy mattered?!).

Hulk Hogan popped one (maybe two, I dont remember) decent rating on his first Impact, but he doesnt really count because business actually ended up worse a few weeks later than before he came in.

Booker T & Team 3D caused some buzz and made minor differences if I recall, but nothing that lasted long term or ultimately mattered.

RVD has meant nothing. Christian left a bigger star than when he came (they did get him over), but meant nothing for business. Nash, Hall, Rikishi (L-O-L), even Flair, none of them have meant anything (think about that for a minute, RIC FLAIR).

Not that AJ Styles or Daniels or James Storm or Jeff Jarrett or whoever were doing any sort of business either, but it was a fraction of the cost before, and I bet with a roster not full of WCW ego, you could more easily get poeple like Heyman or Cornette excited about the product, and give it a real go.

RVD, Jeff Hardy, Ric flair, et al are all by proxy of the Hogan come up...all had very poor debuts and they haven't been able to make them stars for their company...because, well...the product sucks.

 

[SHOGUN]

TNA was pretty good last night. Good matches, too.

RVD is pretty boring when he's not in the ring. Obvious, I know.

Not even going to waste my time on Abyss and his tired bullshit.

Jeff Hardy paints himself in those elaborate patterns to hide the effects of his drug use.

Don't like this "Doug Williams is afraid of heights" gimmick. I get it and I suppose it fits because of how anti-flying moves he is, but it just feels really corny.

RVD/Joe was a good match until Joe gassed. All those kicks and dives caught up with him. :smh:

Wasn't really interested in the Bubba/Neal feud until they threw D-Von into the match. I wonder how that's going to turn out.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing Angle/Pope and Flair/Lethal. The promos have been sick, especially from Flair.

Oh great, Angelina Love puts her career on the line against Madison Rayne. Too bad Love is the biggest KO they have at the moment. Pretty obvious she's going to win.

Not paying for the PPV, though.

 

[FedEx227]

TNA was pretty good last night. Good matches, too.

RVD is pretty boring when he's not in the ring. Obvious, I know.

Not even going to waste my time on Abyss and his tired bullshit.

Jeff Hardy paints himself in those elaborate patterns to hide the effects of his drug use.

Don't like this "Doug Williams is afraid of heights" gimmick. I get it and I suppose it fits because of how anti-flying moves he is, but it just feels really corny.

RVD/Joe was a good match until Joe gassed. All those kicks and dives caught up with him. :smh:

Wasn't really interested in the Bubba/Neal feud until they threw D-Von into the match. I wonder how that's going to turn out.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing Angle/Pope and Flair/Lethal. The promos have been sick, especially from Flair.

Oh great, Angelina Love puts her career on the line against Madison Rayne. Too bad Love is the biggest KO they have at the moment. Pretty obvious she's going to win.

Not paying for the PPV, though.

That's about all that needs to be said about TNA and Vince Russo's booking style.

 

[SHOGUN]

Just caught TNA Xplosion.

Rosie Lotta Love cannot wrestle and is an instant boner-killer. She's not charismatic enough for me to overlook those two glaring concerns. They need to bring Kong back instead of paying this broad.

Sarita/Taylor Wilde is an awesome feud.

Magnus looked great against Max Buck. I don't recall him being that good before. Really good match. I hope he takes the belt from Rob Terry.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just caught TNA Xplosion.

Rosie Lotta Love cannot wrestle and is an instant boner-killer. She's not charismatic enough for me to overlook those two glaring concerns. They need to bring Kong back instead of paying this broad.

Sarita/Taylor Wilde is an awesome feud.

Magnus looked great against Max Buck. I don't recall him being that good before. Really good match. I hope he takes the belt from Rob Terry.

I think ROH has Young Buck$/Generation Me vs. Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards in Collinswood, which is a dream tag team match.

Also, I think it's Colt Cabana/Delirious/Amazing Kong vs. Claudio Castagnoli/Chris Hero/Sara Del Rey (the male part of the face side might be different, I cant remember, but definately Kong for sure).

You going?