The General Wrestling Thread

[JayDizzle]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJI4UV3-gzo"]One of Aloisia's matches in the indies[/ame]

She under "Isis the Amazon" before she got a contract for FCW Development and subsequentially a spot on Uncle Vince's show.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

WWE should sign Awesome Kong for the Divas NXT.

 

[Cody]

WWE should sign Awesome Kong for the Divas NXT.

I second this.

 

[JayDizzle]

There's no show if all the other bitches are killed dead.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSg2X5uenqA"]TNA is too cheap to purchase sturdier building materials[/ame]

It'd be like if Samoa Joe -circa the first feud he had with Styles and Daniels- showed up on NXT.

 

[SuperKevin]

Awesome Kong does too much wrestling for the WWE to be interested

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Fuck NXT. I can get Kong over as a money player in less than three months.

She shows up on RAW, and destroys a random Diva in less than :30. Jillian Hall or some shit. Announcers go apeshit.

Then she shows up on Smackdown, and does the same thing. They explain that she's the hottest free agent in the business, and both RAW & Smackdown are trying to secure her services.

Back to RAW, destroy another Diva. Smackdown, same deal. Back to RAW. Back to Smackdown, but this time she beats two Divas at once, while LayCool looks on looking very concerned for their safety.

We are now one month into the angle, and she challenges the RAW Champ (whichever ho that is right now, I have no clue, not like it matters anyway) at the PPV. She wins, once again in a total squash.

She shows up on Smackdown the next week with the RAW belt, and challenges LayCool. She kills them both dead at the next PPV. Now she has both ho titles, and has yet to take more than 30 seconds to beat every female on the roster.

Somewhere in between, she shows up on NXT and kills all 5 rookies, too.

From here, you can have her start to squash jobber men like Woo Woo Guy & Tyler Reks. Finally, she signs with a brand (dosent matter which one), but the winning GM has something up his sleeve...a new babyface challeger, who she has to face TONIGHT~! This should be a fresh face from dvelopmental, because the idea is to build another new star. Kong dominates, but the new girl scores some hope spots (which no one else has done), and puts up a great underdog fight, before losing.

At the next PPV, we have the rematch. The underdog turns heel, and uses outside interference from a good talking mid card heel male to win the titles. It's a double turn, and now Kong is a money drawing kickass babyface, the likes of which we have never seen from a female.And we have a new heel act with the new diva champ & her male second.

/fantasy booking that will never happen because it's a good, well thought out plan that is planned out more than one week ahead.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Sounds a lot like Kong in TNA...complete with Taylor Wilde.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Sounds a lot like Kong in TNA...complete with Taylor Wilde.

Kong was the biggest TV draw they had during that period, if i'm not mistaken.

Huh.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Kong was the ratings spike weekly.

I was just saying, your idea to make Kong a "star" is pretty much exactly what they did with her in TNA...complete with having her stardom put over a newly debuted talent with the lucky pin (Taylor Wilde was the recipient and faceplanted).

When Hogan and Bisch came in, it was the end of what was, a decent women's division...I mean, I actually watched matches. Loved Kong. Loved the Beautiful People. Fill it in with Gail Kim, ODB, Roxxi...it wasn't a bad group and it was 10x better than what the WWE gives you in regards to women's wrestling (instant channel changer and bathroom break).

 

[Nature Boy]

I'll tune into the first episode to see that King Kong bitch they got on the roster.

She's 6'9".

"Aloisia" I think her name is? She's got Vickie Guerrero as her Pro... I'd rather have Hector or Chavo.

Here is a pic of her with the rest of the cast of season 3.

 

[IamMedellin]

drk skin got a booty :thumbsup:

that chick in the blue is scary jacked..

6'9 amazon is destined for a storyline with the Big Show

 

[IamMedellin]

In response to Bischoff's comments[including him calling ROH a vanity project]

Originally Posted by Jim Cornette

Traditionally, a guy who "draws money" means a guy who, when you have put him in main events or important programs, sells more tickets (or PPV buys these days) than other people who have been in a same/similar spot, and has done this not just once or twice but on a consistent basis. There used to be dozens and dozens of top guys who "drew money" in the territory days. Now, there are a few, and they ARE all in WWE. The problem is, as Bischoff either doesn't want to admit or is too clueless to know, is that the way people like him have changed the business is the reason, not lack of talent on the young guy's parts.

In the territory days, the promoters didn't care WHO drew as long as someone did, they would push anyone they thought could draw, all their businesses were reasonably healthy, and they hadn't exposed everything/given people such bad booking and silly s--t so that when angles were shot, they actually increased business. Now, these young guys are seldom put in the spot to draw to begin with because the "stars" have guaranteed contracts, and if you're paying someone main event money you keep them in the main event, so few get the CHANCE to prove they can draw money (It happens some in WWE, and rarely in TNA)--it doesn't apply in TNA to begin with as some of the biggest draws of the past 20 years work/have worked there and still haven't sold tickets/PPV's/increased ratings, because the booking and company structure itself is incompetant.

Does that mean those guys "can't draw" because the company they work for has lost tens of millions and still doesn't make a profit of any real size? Also, since it's been 10 years since anyone in pro wrestling drew BIG money, not because of the talent but because of the s--tty booking and poorly run companies, as well as the fact that WWE and TNA have made angles/big matches mostly meaningless by doing them too often, badly, and telling people they're all phony to begin with, someone has to be blamed--are these companies going to blame themselves, or their children or families, or "writers"? No--they blame the talent. Companies like ROH struggle because WWE and TNA have made LESS people, not MORE, interested in wrestling.

He also shows his ignorance of his current residence in a glass house--if ROH is a "backyard vanity project for marks", what is TNA, since TNA has lost tens of millions MORE than ROH has lost in the exact same time in business, doesn't that mean that ROH is behind WWE but ahead of TNA? Do we grade by gross revenue or total profit? WWE has created an environment where WWE draws as a show, like the Harlem Globetrotters or Holiday on Ice, and the stars on a particular card mean less than they ever have.

To truly have guys in the business who "draw money" again, we would have to pitch out the dreck like Bischoff and others who don't respect or understand wrestling, who think they are Emmy award winning "real" TV producers, ditch the comedy writers like Russo and Stephanie McMahon's comic reading college kids, and push wrestlers who win, lose and chase championships. People will watch what wrestling is now on TV for free, and a few hundred thousand might buy the pPV's, but ticket sales for wrestling will NEVER approach what they once were without taking those steps.

That is why all the guys today who are actually draws, who sell live event tickets and PPV's in big numbers, almost all work for Dana White, the most successful pro wrestling promoter in the world. He just calls it UFC. Bischoff sees no similarity bewtween MMA/UFC and pro wrestling, which is why he is doomed to be a guy that was successful for 2 years out of a 20 year career. BTW, what other executive in any company actively dislikes, disagrees with, ignores and insults the 10% of people who are most dedicated to/spend the most money on their product or service?

All of his "crossover to mainstream culture" bulls--t is because people like him, Hogan, McMahon, Russo, etc are all embarrassed to admit they are in the wrestling business (and the business hates to admit it has them) and they all want to be "real" stars--only the Rock has done that, but I wish all I named would leave our business to try!

This is just my offhand impression of this nitwit's comments, but I think you're wasting time trying to quiz Eric Bischoff on anything other than a good hair dye, a nice tanbed, a well-fitting set of dentures and the current price of a 3 way at the Gold Club.

He is Pissed....

 

[SHOGUN]

Cornette continues to drop knowledge.

 

[JayDizzle]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydZDLLtp8Y&feature=player_embedded"]I miss you Kurt[/ame]

 

[JayDizzle]

Apparently Cena was going to be a Pro for NXT but was shot down...

@KandyCena yes I asked, and was denied. Apparently u need more than 2 moves to offically be called a "pro" (enjoy that one)

 

[SHOGUN]

Christina Von Eerie. :wub:

 

[IamMedellin]

MCMG's new valet?

 

[SHOGUN]

MCMG's new valet?

Ink Inc's.

 

[SHOGUN]

More releases are expected to be taking place over the next 30 to 60 days within TNA Wrestling according to a strong TNA source that Wrestleview.com spoke with this week. While the numbers can always change over time, around six talents are expected to be cut and it may not happen all at once. As it has been over the last year, the cuts would be another cost-cutting measure for the company.

The cost-cutting in TNA will not stop there. Were told that individuals within TNA are also being coached on certain language in how they will discuss restructuring contracts with talent or as the source put it, "It is double speak for you can stay, but at a reduced pay scale." This same source also went into detail over the frustration over pay scale with talent. "They're paying some of these guys $400 a shot and they have to pick up hotel, car rentals, gas, food, etc."

In addition to cost-cutting measures expected to take place over the next month or two, frustration over the direction of the television product is another big concern. The general feeling among many within TNA is that Vince Russo has no idea what he is doing and that the show has, in the words of a key source, "turned into the Dixie Carter Kiss Ass Show." This feeling is due to Russo writing her into a majority of the segments on Impact in the last two months. Some talent are even joking that Impact has become the "Dixie Carter Show" starring Dixie Carter and wrestlers who happen to be there.

"The talent think Russo is writing her into the show as a way to protect his job. The entire makeup of the company has completely changed since Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan have entered the company. It is very uncomfortable working there. The regular TNA talent feel as though Russo and Dixie have literally ramrodded the old ECW crew in on top of them. They make more money than a lot of the TNA guys and there's a lot of resentment in the locker room," added the source. One joke that made the rounds recently backstage was the recent fight/charity challenge by Jim Cornette to Vince Russo in how that would draw a bigger PPV buyrate than the next TNA PPV would this Sunday.

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1283547180

 

[JayDizzle]

Christina Von Eerie. :wub:

:jizz: