The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

TNA signs AAA's Zorro to a two year deal. Steve "Dr. Lucha" Sims reports it's a $2M per year deal.

Unreal. TNA is bleeding red, and they sign a complete piece of shit who won't draw a single dime to a crazy deal. Zorro sucks. Bad.

The only good thing about this, is I watch AAA but I don't watch TNA, so now I don't have to sit through a weekly Zorro match.

 

[SHOGUN]

Mike Quakenbush VS. Claudio Castagnoli. Great finish.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m_OqtON3X4[/ame]

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Haha I posted that match in the Quackenbush profile in the Top 100 thread. Good stuff.

 

[adembroski]

I'm pissed at wrestling right now.

Actually, I'm pissed at Vince McMahon and Dixie Carter and every other fuckwad who's allowed shit like Big Dick Johnson to happen.

I'm pissed that I'll never know if Cena actually deserves the shit he takes or if he's stuck in the same 5-move rotation because that's how WWE creative fulfills its need to control every single minute aspect of the show.

I'm pissed at Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff for thinking they can take on the WWE at it's own game by resurrecting the same shit that killed the last company they worked for.

I'm pissed because I waste 2 hours watching wrestling shows that have 8 minutes of actual wrestling.

I'm pissed because having 10 guys surround a ring and mob Cena with fake looking punches and everyone basically falling all over the place and making a mess is actually the most interesting thing that's happened in mainstream wrestling in the last 10 years.

And when it comes right down too it, what's the difference between Nexus and Immortal other than it not being made up of social security recipients?

Credit where credit is due, thank God the WWE has finally seen fit to shelve the goddamn geriatrics. Hey, I know, Triple H is over, Undertaker is over, Kane is over, Y2J is over, HBK is over... but goddamn it at some point it just gets stale. I don't care how much I enjoy watching some of these guys (speaking of Jericho, mostly), when the same damn people are passing the strap around in 2010 that were winning it in 1997, something's wrong. I think CM Punk and The Miz are some of the best things going in wrestling right now, but if they're still winning championships in 2025 I'm going to be pissed.

Is there any end in sight? Is there any hope that RoH will grow beyond at least TNA? Is there any chance that Dixie Carter will see the light and realize she can't do what the WWE does on a 10th of the budget and expect to beat them at their own game? Will these attention whore 40-50 year olds ever decide they've had enough limelight and hang up the goddamn boots?

Someone save me from the Vinces.

 

[EmpireWF]

I'm pissed because having 10 guys surround a ring and mob Cena with fake looking punches and everyone basically falling all over the place and making a mess is actually the most interesting thing that's happened in mainstream wrestling in the last 10 years.

Is there any end in sight? Is there any hope that RoH will grow beyond at least TNA? Is there any chance that Dixie Carter will see the light and realize she can't do what the WWE does on a 10th of the budget and expect to beat them at their own game? Will these attention whore 40-50 year olds ever decide they've had enough limelight and hang up the goddamn boots?

Certainly having 3-minute matches on RAW each week is infuriating, especially when it's guys like Danielson, Morrison, Miz, Kidd, etc. who can work 30 minutes if they were called upon to. 3 minutes does absolutely nothing for anyone except piss off viewers b/c nothing of note can happen in a 3 minute wrestling match.


I will say, we've had plenty of interesting/great things happen in the past 10 years besides Cena getting beaten down by a gang.

The Invasion (at least in the beginning, in theory...was interesting)

The Radicalz showing up on RAW (....and HHH killing them off)

The Benoit/Eddie lead up to the titles in 2004 were great

Brock/Angle was awesome

The Smackdown Six were fucking awesome

Shawn's return and the realization that the man was probably a better all-round wrestler than he was when he left.

Shawn/Taker was balls to the wall AWESOME.

Week 1 of Nexus was unbelievably awesome...then it ended days later.

The return of Hogan to WWE in 2002 was fun......Hogan/Rock was great

Taker's continued evolution was fun

heel John Cena was fun

Batista/HHH in 2005 was great

Ric Flair's retirement from WWE was great

Chris Jericho's transformation from Y2J into heel Jericho was awesome

The first One Night Stand was FUCKING AWESOME (even if Eddie/Benoit was a letdown)

The Jericho/Michaels feud (all incarnations of it) was brilliant

Shelton Benjamin's one shining moment, the RAW match with Michaels was sweet

The development of the Miz has been cool

 

[SHOGUN]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNZJtqHHbQ[/ame]

Hogan's a fucking idiot. He just ethered pro wrestling and his own company in his heel promo on ReAction. Granted, no one really watches ReAction, but it's still an idiotic comment to make.

 

[EmpireWF]

BTW, in looking over the WON awards on wiki.....looks like this year will be the first in a few that Danielson does not win Most Outstanding Wrestler or Best Technical Wrestler.

Most Outstanding from 2006-09 (4x...more consecutive times than Benoit, Angle, Liger, Flair and Kobashi...although obviously the landscape has changed dramatically since those days)
Best Technical from 2005-09 (5x...more consecutive times than anyone else)

 

[EmpireWF]

Hogan's a fucking idiot. He just ethered pro wrestling and his own company in his heel promo on ReAction. Granted, no one really watches ReAction, but it's still an idiotic comment to make.

Now it's 94,000 at Wrestlemania 3

and on whatever day the promo was given...Andre was 700 pounds.

bama:

 

[adembroski]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNZJtqHHbQ

Hogan's a fucking idiot. He just ethered pro wrestling and his own company in his heel promo on ReAction. Granted, no one really watches ReAction, but it's still an idiotic comment to make.

Wow... just wow.

Hey, Hogan, you still drawing 90k? No, you're not. The few people who do watch you anymore are rubber necking at the fucking trainwreck you've become.

And by the way, Terry, you never did draw 90k... Hulk Hogan drew 90k- you know, that guy the 700lb giant made? What's the matter, Terry? Can't remember the name of the guy who made your career? Or you just have a blank spot for anyone who actually had some respect for the goddamn industry that put food on their table.

How about Sylvester Fucking Stallone... even he had more to do with your success than you did.

Who've you ever put over? Nobody's drawing money, you fucking nutjob, because you need to take the spotlight instead of getting guys over. Is there anybody in your precious fucking immortals that wasn't wrestling in 1995?

Fuck you.

 

[adembroski]

Addendum to Jeff Fucking Hardy: Hey, asswipe, you made CM Punk? Who the hell was it that showed up on Raw and showed the WWE that a little guy can be a credible main-eventer in the first place? If anything, Punk gave you your title shot, you little weasel.

So have fun with the huckster, Bitchoff, and Vince Jr. in the sinking ship you call TNA. Hey, at least you wont have to ever actually wrestle anymore! You can just stand their spouting bad poetry like a coffee shop lesbian holding that tramp stamp you call a championship.

 

[adembroski]

...

I'm considering switching to decaf.

 

[adembroski]

Certainly having 3-minute matches on RAW each week is infuriating, especially when it's guys like Danielson, Morrison, Miz, Kidd, etc. who can work 30 minutes if they were called upon to. 3 minutes does absolutely nothing for anyone except piss off viewers b/c nothing of note can happen in a 3 minute wrestling match.


I will say, we've had plenty of interesting/great things happen in the past 10 years besides Cena getting beaten down by a gang.

The Invasion (at least in the beginning, in theory...was interesting)

The Radicalz showing up on RAW (....and HHH killing them off)

The Benoit/Eddie lead up to the titles in 2004 were great

Brock/Angle was awesome

The Smackdown Six were fucking awesome

Shawn's return and the realization that the man was probably a better all-round wrestler than he was when he left.

Shawn/Taker was balls to the wall AWESOME.

Week 1 of Nexus was unbelievably awesome...then it ended days later.

The return of Hogan to WWE in 2002 was fun......Hogan/Rock was great

Taker's continued evolution was fun

heel John Cena was fun

Batista/HHH in 2005 was great

Ric Flair's retirement from WWE was great

Chris Jericho's transformation from Y2J into heel Jericho was awesome

The first One Night Stand was FUCKING AWESOME (even if Eddie/Benoit was a letdown)

The Jericho/Michaels feud (all incarnations of it) was brilliant

Shelton Benjamin's one shining moment, the RAW match with Michaels was sweet

The development of the Miz has been cool

It was hyperbole. 10 years, exaggeration... my point is that the Nexus angle is nothing new or special, but people feel like it is because it's actually getting attention. It is the best thing the WWE has done in a while, but that's mostly because 90% of what the WWE does is shit.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I used to get mad. Now I just don't pay much attention.

I record RAW and skim it. I never, ever watch one second of TNA. I don't even know what time/channel Smackdown is even on anymore. Shit, I many weeks behind on ROH at this point.

I'm perfectly fine picking and choosing what I check out on the internet from Japan, and occassionally watching/skimming RAW, AAA, and ROH. Banging your head against the wall waiting for this shit to get better is pointless.

 

[EmpireWF]

Danielson tweeted his favorite two indy matches this year:

"My two favorite independent matches I had this year? 1) Me vs. Shingo from "Enter the Dragon" (order at www.dgusa.tv), and...

2) Me vs. Sawa from EVOLVE 5 (order at www.evolvewrestling.com). Support independent wrestling this holiday season!!!"

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) has been released from his WWE contract. We wish him well in all of his future endeavours.

 

[IamMedellin]

Joey Styles tweeted:

“Kevin Nash said WWE proved we are a work with The Miz as champ? Nash’s work never exposed the business? Miz won’t coast on just being big.”

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Nash apparently doesnt want to see new faces pushed, even in companies he doesnt work for.

He's a big reason wrestling is where it is, helping kill WCW and holding down young guys. He himself was an outsider (no pun intended), a bouncer who WCW wrestlers recruited when he was well past 30. Miz has earned his spot, he was outcasted, booted from the lockerroom, made fun of endlessly, and is a legit top guy now.

 

[SHOGUN]

Have you guys ever watched PWG? Any thoughts on it?

 

[Senators26]

Facepalm spoiler from a house show in December

 

Fatal Four Way Steel Cage Main Event for the WWE Championship: Juan Cena (John Cena's Mexican Cousin) vs. Randy Orton vs. The Miz vs. Wade Barrett

I mean.. REALLY?

 

[EmpireWF]

WAT.

He's US champion...

sarcasm