UFC 101: Declaration

[RosettaStoned]

Noone was expecting GSP to completely dominate either of those guys from a wrestling stand point. Many had dubbed Koscheck the best pure wrestler in the whole UFC and GSP made him look like a child.

Stop underrating Georges. Its sad.

That's not the fucking point. The point is beating people at their games isn't what he does. He beats people at his game, which is wrestling.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Dude.. he stood with guys like Irvin and Leben because he didnt have a chance to even do anything else. They were both toast before they even get into the ring.. neither of them are even on Silva's level..

He was timid as hell against Cote..

Hendo actually beat Forrest in one round.. inevitably he ended up winning by submission. Anderson is a top level boxer from an MMA respective tho.. why wouldnt he want to stand?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

That's not the fucking point. The point is beating people at their games isn't what he does. He beats people at his game, which is wrestling.

Georges has literally won by every method you can win by.. he is one of the most well-rounded fighters in MMA history.. to say he cant beat you at your own game is foolish.

 

[Anthony]

Here you go boys.

Anderson Silva

GSP

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

There you have it.. IMO GSP's level of talent fought exceeds Anderson's. Like I said.. its arguable either way, but its retarded to write off GSP the way Rosetta does.. all fighters in the top 3 are pretty interchangable.

 

[Rudi]

Silva is the man.

 

[Anthony]

 

[RosettaStoned]

There you have it.. IMO GSP's level of talent fought exceeds Anderson's. Like I said.. its arguable either way, but its retarded to write off GSP the way Rosetta does.. all fighters in the top 3 are pretty interchangable.

Silva's win over Dan Henderson > anything GSP has done.

 

[Bmore]

to fans like you Fedor will never be the #1 P4P fighter until he fights inside "The Octagon". But! - he's beaten 3 former UFC HW Champions already...... In dominating fashion.

On that note, GTFO.

When has the UFC's heavy weight division ever been anything good? Fuckin' Randy Couture had to move up in weight just to make the damn division worth watching, so get that shit out of here. As Dana White has said many times, there is a reason AA and Sylvia aren't in the UFC right now and it has nothing to do with a contract. Because they are both on a downward spiral.

Fedor would've proven something to me if he had fought Barnett and beat him. Hyping up AA and Tim Sylvia doesn't make me look at Fedor in a different light, when both of them are has beens. Fedor is the best HW in the world, P4P? Not so much.

Look who GSP has fought and beaten. Penn, Alves, Koscheck, Fitch, Serra, Trigg, Parisyan, Sherk. I don't think I even need to mention Silva, who hasn't lost a fight since 2004 and who has been constantly tested. So much that he will be beating Dan Hendersons ass again in his next title defense.:thumbsup:

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Silva's win over Dan Henderson > anything GSP has done.

Beating Matt Hughes not once, but twice.. > Dan Henderson.

Making BJ's corner throw in the towel was fun too..

 

[Bmore]

Beating Matt Hughes not once, but twice.. > Dan Henderson.

Making BJ's corner throw in the towel was fun too..

Hendo will have another shot. So what will you say when Silva downs him again?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Hendo will have another shot. So what will you say when Silva downs him again?

That GSP's talent fought is still better than Silva's, as im saying right now.

I dont doubt that Silva will smash Hendo again, either.

 

[Bmore]

I do think that GSP has fought harder competition. Problem is that loss to Serra, sure it was a fluke IMO. Not to mention Hughes beat Georges once. Silva hasn't been beaten in a long, long time and unlike Fedor (as of late) Silva has been getting tested.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I do think that GSP has fought harder competition. Problem is that loss to Serra, sure it was a fluke IMO. Not to mention Hughes beat Georges once. Silva hasn't been beaten in a long, long time and unlike Fedor (as of late) Silva has been getting tested.

Anderson Silva lost to Ryo Chonan by jumping heel hook....

Freak KO by Serra > Freak jumping fucking heel hook by Ryo.

Georges has lost twice his whole career.. the first time he made a terrible mistake of tapping with 1 second left on the clock, probably because his arm was about to snap. Credit to Hughes.. but GSP avenged as said. The other was a freak KO to Matt Serra.. maybe Georges underestimated him, I dont know.. but everyone and their mother knew it was a fluke. Georges absolutely destroyed him the next time out.

Silva's been submitted by Takase.. and he was the victim of the the greatest submission in MMA history. He also had to use an illegal move against Okami due to fear of death at the hands of the Japanese warrior.

 

[Bmore]

Anderson Silva lost to Ryo Chonan by jumping heel hook....

Freak KO by Serra > Freak jumping fucking heel hook by Ryo.

Georges has lost twice his whole career.. the first time he made a terrible mistake of tapping with 1 second left on the clock, probably because his arm was about to snap. Credit to Hughes.. but GSP avenged as said. The other was a freak KO to Matt Serra.. maybe Georges underestimated him, I dont know.. but everyone and their mother knew it was a fluke. Georges absolutely destroyed him the next time out.

Silva's been submitted by Takase.. and he was the victim of the the greatest submission in MMA history. He also had to use an illegal move against Okami due to fear of death at the hands of the Japanese warrior.

And these happened how many years/fights ago?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

And these happened how many years/fights ago?

The Chonan defeat was 5 years ago, actually happened after the GSP loss to Matt Hughes.

He got scared of Okami in 06..

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

who the fuck cares

they're 2 of the greatest fighters in the world

what a stupid fucking argument

If you aint feeling the debate you can kindly disregard the thread.

 

[Anthony]

When has the UFC's heavy weight division ever been anything good? Fuckin' Randy Couture had to move up in weight just to make the damn division worth watching, so get that shit out of here. As Dana White has said many times, there is a reason AA and Sylvia aren't in the UFC right now and it has nothing to do with a contract. Because they are both on a downward spiral.

Fedor would've proven something to me if he had fought Barnett and beat him. Hyping up AA and Tim Sylvia doesn't make me look at Fedor in a different light, when both of them are has beens. Fedor is the best HW in the world, P4P? Not so much.

Look who GSP has fought and beaten. Penn, Alves, Koscheck, Fitch, Serra, Trigg, Parisyan, Sherk. I don't think I even need to mention Silva, who hasn't lost a fight since 2004 and who has been constantly tested. So much that he will be beating Dan Hendersons ass again in his next title defense.:thumbsup:

Oh I see... So beating Cro Cop, Nog, Coleman, Randleman etc while they were in their prime in dominating fashion doesn't count, By the way, Arlovski's departure was due to a contract dispute/the lack of respect & attention Zuffa gave him while he was nearing the last fight in his contract (I also believe his last fight was in the undercard) Plus, he also wanted to fight the best HW in the world.

P.S. It's not that the HW's now & back then were/are not good, Fedor is just that damned good.

'til next time

Fedor
Silva
GSP

 

[Anthony]

Anderson Silva lost to Ryo Chonan by jumping heel hook....

Freak KO by Serra > Freak jumping fucking heel hook by Ryo.

Georges has lost twice his whole career.. the first time he made a terrible mistake of tapping with 1 second left on the clock, probably because his arm was about to snap. Credit to Hughes.. but GSP avenged as said. The other was a freak KO to Matt Serra.. maybe Georges underestimated him, I dont know.. but everyone and their mother knew it was a fluke. Georges absolutely destroyed him the next time out.

Silva's been submitted by Takase.. and he was the victim of the the greatest submission in MMA history. He also had to use an illegal move against Okami due to fear of death at the hands of the Japanese warrior.

The Piranha ain't nothing fuck wit' ....

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Oh I see... So beating Cro Cop, Nog, Coleman, Randleman etc while they were in their prime in dominating fashion doesn't count, By the way, Arlovski's departure was due to a contract dispute/the lack of respect & attention Zuffa gave him while he was nearing the last fight in his contract (I also believe his last fight was in the undercard) Plus, he also wanted to fight the best HW in the world.

P.S. It's not that the HW's now & back then were/are not good, Fedor is just that damned good.

'til next time

Fedor
Silva
GSP

Arlovski left the UFC because he heard Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin were coming and he didnt want his face to end up like Humpty Dumpty.