Vick THINKS he is entitled to $10,000,000.00 per year

[ThunderHorse]

I'm on board with senser...Mike Vick was pretty bad as a quarterback. In hindsight, I'm sure the owner of the Falcons wouldn't have things any other way, then they are now. He has a franchise QB, one of the better young teams in football, and none of the drama that surrounded Vick...aka good pub.

I wouldn't give Vick much more than a back up job and a vets minimum salary upon his return. Been gone form the game and incarcerated for 2 years now...he had little skill as a QB before and he won't be the fastest guy on the field anymore.

I actually don't think he'll ever play in the NFL again...

I always figured that some CFL team would pick him up due to the fact that he is probably weaker, slower, and his passing skills were already sub par.

I'd be VERY surprised if he actually managed to get an NFL team to sign him, which in my opinion, would be a PR nightmare for whatever team had the balls to do it.

 

[Senser81]

I mean, shit, I'm sorry that if Matt Ryan walks into the room I don't get on my knees and offer to suck his dick like you apparently do.

Riight...because saying that Matt Ryan is a better QB than Vick and backing up my statements with facts is somehow akin to me being a homosexual.

FWIW, I'm not even saying Ryan is an elite QB or a great QB...I'm just saying he's better than Vick. Vick was slightly above-average, Ryan is above-average. Thats it. Didn't know it would lead to such a shitstorm, but thats what happens when you try to debate football matters with Vick fanboys.

 

[Senser81]

You didn't answer the damn question the first time. It was a yes or no question. No need for the extra shit.

So you still have no point? Is that why your screen name is what it is?

Thats the #1 mantra for Vick Fanboys who have no idea what they are talking about..."Do you even watch the games?" is their only comeback. Lame.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Riight...because saying that Matt Ryan is a better QB than Vick and backing up my statements with facts is somehow akin to me being a homosexual.

FWIW, I'm not even saying Ryan is an elite QB or a great QB...I'm just saying he's better than Vick. Vick was slightly above-average, Ryan is above-average. Thats it. Didn't know it would lead to such a shitstorm, but thats what happens when you try to debate football matters with Vick fanboys.

This is where you don't make any sense...

I could have sworn I just said Ryan was a better quarterback then Vick.

and me calling you a Ryan dick rider is the equivalent to you calling me a Vick fanboy. it may not make sense going your way, but it sure as hell doesn't make sense coming my way either.

sad thing is I'm not even a Falcon fan, I'm from fucking Indianapolis.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Well obviously he would take things the way they are now. But back when it was just Mike Vick. Blank was in love with Vick, it was a straight up bromance. He loved Mike Vick along with the entire city of Atlanta.

It is good to see the City of Atlanta has low expectations from their "star" quarterback.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Well obviously he would take things the way they are now. But back when it was just Mike Vick. Blank was in love with Vick, it was a straight up bromance. He loved Mike Vick along with the entire city of Atlanta.

I'll never forget how broken this city was after Vick's shenanigans...

for the first time since I've lived here, people were more excited about BASKETBALL then football, which was a shocker to me, as the Hawks had always blown a fat one for the 5 years I'd been here.

it was good to see the Falcons rebound so nicely.

 

[Point Blank]

So you still have no point? Is that why your screen name is what it is?

Thats the #1 mantra for Vick Fanboys who have no idea what they are talking about..."Do you even watch the games?" is their only comeback. Lame.

I know what the fuck I'm talking about my friend. And that wasn't even considered a "comeback", it was a fucking question dumbass. I wasn't even apart of you guys argument. Micahel Vick is past me, I look towards the future not the past.

Carry on.

 

[Senser81]

I always figured that some CFL team would pick him up due to the fact that he is probably weaker, slower, and his passing skills were already sub par.

You actually have to be accurate to be a CFL QB. You don't need a strong arm, but you have to be accurate. I guess in addition to never watching NFL games, you also don't watch the CFL.

 

[Point Blank]

lol

 

[Senser81]

I know what the fuck I'm talking about my friend. And that wasn't even considered a "comeback", it was a fucking question dumbass. I wasn't even apart of you guys argument. Micahel Vick is past me, I look towards the future not the past.

Carry on.

I never said you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about...but YOU questioned MY knowledge, so I don't know why you are so pissy. I didn't do anything to you.

LOL, I'm trying to discuss football here, not debate about TV viewing habits. I've made several football-related points. You can disagree with them, but your current tact of repeating the same condescending and irrelevent question over and over is pathetic.

For example, some guy said that it was a shame we never got to see what Mike Vick could do with his NFL career, and my counter-point was that he never really improved, so its not like we missed anything. Then you asked me if I watched Falcons games...as if my not watching Falcon games would somehow mean that Mike Vick improved while being in the NFL.

Again, what is your point?

 

[Point Blank]

My point was to actually see if you KNEW what you was talking about. It doesn't take rocket science to understand where I was coming from. It was a question out of curiosity, not to question your "knowledge".

Carry on.

 

[Senser81]

My point was to actually see if you KNEW what you was talking about. It doesn't take rocket science to understand where I was coming from. It was a question out of curiosity, not to question your "knowledge".

Carry on.

Obviously I KNOW what I am talking about. The proof is in the pudding. I don't know what additional information you would have gleaned by asking me about my TV viewing habits. I also still don't understand why you continued to ask me the same condescending question over and over when I had already answered it (instead of actually asking me something on-topic).

Senser, how many Falcons games did you watch when Michael Vick was there? Not including primetime games. Just curious..

All of them. DirectTV has been around for a few years now. What is your point?

You didn't answer the damn question the first time. It was a yes or no question. No need for the extra shit.

So, still no pointâ„¢?

 

[Houston]

This argument has picked up and move all over the place in different directions.

Everyone has their own strong seperate views that obviously aren't gonna change, might as well just drop it....

 

[FirstTimer]

You ALMOST had it. But then you had to throw in another disclaimer. Why is Vick a better football player than Ryan if Ryan is the better QB, and they both have exclusively played QB?

Is Vince Young better than Peyton Manning because he is faster? Is Dominic Rhodes a better RB than Joseph Addai because Rhodes might be better at kicking FGs?

Exactly. This isn't the 1920's and 30's when you could say Well Bronko Nagurski was a better OT than Jim Thorpe but Thorpe was a better football player overall because he excelled at about 4 other positions that Nagurski was good but not as good as Thorpe at.

Ryan and Vick are both QB's

That's all they play.

Ryan is the better QB.

Ryan is the better player

It's not logically possible for Vick to be a "great football player" if he was barely an above average QB and QB is the ONLY position he played.

 

[Saluki]

Vick def isn't gunna get 10mill a year from anybody when he 1st comes back. Even tho he was subpar as far as throwing the football, he did carry a shitty ATL team to an NFC championship pretty much on his own legs. Like how he played the position or not he won more games than he lost doing it

 

[ChemTheThriller]

Bah... who cares about this and that, who cares if vick threw for 30% completion, 9 out of 10 passes were to HBs an TEs... who cares? it is all about winning, and that doesn't just fall on one player, maybe the falcons would have been better with ryan, when their #1 was finneran and their HB was who? duckett/dunn? maybe they would have, maybe the 08 falcons would have been better with vick when he has a legit running back in turner... who cares honestly...


Vick may have been 2-2 in the playoffs, but that's 2 more victories then matt ryan...

 

[Point Blank]

Bah... who cares about this and that, who cares if vick threw for 30% completion, 9 out of 10 passes were to HBs an TEs... who cares? it is all about winning, and that doesn't just fall on one player, maybe the falcons would have been better when their #1 was finneran and their HB was who? duckett/dunn? maybe they would have, maybe the 08 falcons would have been better with vick when he has a legit running back in turner... who cares honestly...


Vick may have been 2-2 in the playoffs, but that's 2 more victories then matt ryan...

That's not fair :laugh:

 

[Senser81]

Bah... who cares about this and that, who cares if vick threw for 30% completion, 9 out of 10 passes were to HBs an TEs... who cares? it is all about winning, and that doesn't just fall on one player, maybe the falcons would have been better when their #1 was finneran and their HB was who? duckett/dunn? maybe they would have, maybe the 08 falcons would have been better with vick when he has a legit running back in turner... who cares honestly...


Vick may have been 2-2 in the playoffs, but that's 2 more victories then matt ryan...

Falcons records with Vick on roster:

7-9
9-6-1
5-11
11-5
8-8
7-9

Falcons record before Matt Ryan:

4-12

Falcons record with Matt Ryan:

11-5

 

[FirstTimer]

Bah... who cares about this and that, who cares if vick threw for 30% completion, 9 out of 10 passes were to HBs an TEs... who cares? it is all about winning, and that doesn't just fall on one player, maybe the falcons would have been better when their #1 was finneran and their HB was who? duckett/dunn? maybe they would have, maybe the 08 falcons would have been better with vick when he has a legit running back in turner... who cares honestly...


Vick may have been 2-2 in the playoffs, but that's 2 more victories then matt ryan...

Yeah, and the same amount as Rex Grossman. Plus Grossman went to a Super Bowl.

Grossman>Vick>Ryan

 

[ChemTheThriller]

Falcons records with Vick on roster:

7-9
9-6-1
5-11
11-5
8-8
7-9

Falcons record before Matt Ryan:

4-12

Falcons record with Matt Ryan:

11-5

Because that's the goal senser! great regular seasons and flopping in the playoffs... Glad you set that straight, I had it all backwards...


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