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Vick THINKS he is entitled to $10,000,000.00 per year

Peppers90 said:
Because that's the goal senser! great regular seasons and flopping in the playoffs... Glad you set that straight, I had it all backwards...


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Gotta love the Vick fanboy argument that when we compare Vick to Ryan we should ignore passing stats (i.e. the thing a QB has the most control over) and instead focus on team performance....and even in that area Ryan has the edge but Vick fanboys proclaim victory.
 
Peppers90 said:
Because that's the goal senser! great regular seasons and flopping in the playoffs... Glad you set that straight, I had it all backwards...


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Yeah it's a real "flop" to lose to the eventual NFC Champions and a team that was 2:30 away from winning the Super Bowl.

LOL at Vick fans now touting Vick's playoff performances when he has the same record as Rex Grossman and has never even sniffed a SB.
 
HoustonBoy said:
Other factors contributed to that record besides Matt Ryan though.
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Yeah, but it can't be a one-way street where Atlanta's 2008 losses (including postseason) are blamed on Matt Ryan while Atlanta's 2002-2006 wins are attributed only to Mike Vick.

I've been down this path before...its always the same.
 
K1NG said:
lol.. i guess peterson is boring to watch huh. i mean when is he going to do something besides run?

anyway.. who cares what vick says.
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One of the stupidest things I've ever read. Peterson is a runningback you moron. Maybe I should have said other than the ONE position in the game where your only job is to run, but I figured people were smart enough to understand what I meant. I guess not.

LOL @ Vick being a better football player than Matt Ryan. I have never in my life seen people get so defensive over such an average football player. You know why? Because he was supposed to make the Falcons relevant, he was supposed to be the next huge thing in the NFL, and he failed. He fell flat on his face and it pisses you all off.

Get over it. He sucked and he will always suck.
 
Here lemme add some notes to this.

Senser81 said:
Falcons records with Vick on roster:

7-9 (He started 2 games)
9-6-1(made the playoffs)
5-11(Broke his leg preseason)
11-5(NFC Championship)
8-8(shit season)
7-9(Threw for 20TDs 13ints and rushed for 1000 yards and they still went 7-9 = Falcons suck)

Falcons record before Matt Ryan:

4-12 (Same team as the 7-9 team without Mike Vick)

Falcons record with Matt Ryan:

11-5
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Great arguement firsttimer...

It's funny if vick does what he does, 20 tds 13 ints, 1000 rushing yards... people nit pick, "look at his completion % this and that... what an awful QB"

Now if ryan was to go lets say 25 tds 13 ints, and the falcons went 7-9 "omg the look at the team around ryan"

You try that with vick, no one seems to really realize his #1 wr was finneran, his #1 HB was dunn who was at the end of his career...

People who hate on vick are just looking for someone to hate on and he is the easiest target because he isn't the conventional QB... I'm sure people were hating on the forward pass when it was first being used...
 
Saluki said:
Here lemme add some notes to this.
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Whoa, now we are doing records "with notes", so its even easier for Vick fanboys to cherry-pick which 'facts' are relevent and which aren't.

I thought the whole "lets ignore Vick's performance and regular season record and instead focus on Vick's postseason win total" already went too far, but this takes the cake.

So basically the Falcons beating possibly the worst playoff team in NFL history (the 2004 Rams, who were 8-8 and gave up nearly 100 more points than they scored) and another postseason win over a depleted Green Bay squad somehow lets us ignore all of Vick's shortcomings. Brilliant!
 
Peppers90 said:
Great arguement firsttimer...

It's funny if vick does what he does, 20 tds 13 ints, 1000 rushing yards... people nit pick, "look at his completion % this and that... what an awful QB"

Now if ryan was to go lets say 25 tds 13 ints, and the falcons went 7-9 "omg the look at the team around ryan"

You try that with vick, no one seems to really realize his #1 wr was finneran, his #1 HB was dunn who was at the end of his career...

People who hate on vick are just looking for someone to hate on and he is the easiest target because he isn't the conventional QB... I'm sure people were hating on the forward pass when it was first being used...
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LOL at Point Blank thanking this post. Do you even watch Falcon games? Peppers basically said that Vick is good because Matt Ryan and the Falcons MIGHT go 7-9 NEXT YEAR. God damn...I've seen people stretch the truth in order to make their point, but I've never seen so many people ignore reality in order to put forth imaginary scenarios.

LOL at your 'forward pass' analogy. The forward pass actually caught on and changed the course of the NFL. QBs who can't pass and who spend time in jail haven't become the 'next big thing' in the NFL yet.

FAIL

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvC31fKy9kw&feature=related[/media]
 
senser said:
witty comeback to some other poster.
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How can you blame someone for notes? How is it fair to say everyone! look at vicks career... then add in his season with 2 games and his season he broke his leg... If your bringing up facts senser at least be impartial and either note he only played x amount of games or leave them off...

Man I think Tom Brady is a great QB his team went 11-5 this year...

makes no sense right?
 
senser said:
LOL at Point Blank thanking this post. Do you even watch Falcon games? Peppers basically said that Vick is good because Matt Ryan and the Falcons MIGHT go 7-9 NEXT YEAR.
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No... I didn't say that senser, it was a hypothetical situation...
 
Peppers90 said:
Great arguement firsttimer...

It's funny if vick does what he does, 20 tds 13 ints, 1000 rushing yards... people nit pick, "look at his completion % this and that... what an awful QB"
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Who said that? Vick had an average year and the rushing is inflated by the fact that his sack yardage didn't come off his rushing total. QB rushing yards=overrated in he NFL. Hell the record Vick broke was held by Bobby fucking Douglass


Peppers90 said:
Now if ryan was to go lets say 25 tds 13 ints, and the falcons went 7-9 "omg the look at the team around ryan"
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How could you possibly know that? It's hasn;t happened and Ryan isn't getting all the credit for the Falcons' success this season. All that is being said is Ryan was a factor, had a good season and is a better QB than Vick. Not that Ryan was the sole catalyst for the Falcons' season.

Peppers90 said:
You try that with vick, no one seems to really realize his #1 wr was finneran
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And when the Falcons tried to bring in #1 guys they regressed because Vick was not a good passer, especially accurately down the field to WR's. Why would anyone but Brian Finneran want to come play with Vick?

Peppers90 said:
his #1 HB was dunn who was at the end of his career...
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And when he had Dunn at his peak his stats were even worse. If Vick was half teh QB people make him out to be it wouldn't matter who his RB was and if he was at the end of his career or not. Vick would have been putting up number his entire NFL career.


Peppers90 said:
I'm sure people were hating on the forward pass when it was first being used...
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First LOL at the irony of this statement, secondwhat Vick was doign wasn't revolutionary. Vick fans historic perspective is even skewed by what this guy did. What Vick was doing wasn't anything new that hadn't been done by Tarkenton, Douglass, Young, Cunningham, Elway to a certain extent, before him. On that list the only QB he is better than is Douglass and that's not even saying much.
 
Peppers90 said:
No... I didn't say that senser, it was a hypothetical situation...
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"UGH!"

Why did I say "UGH"? Here are your choices:

A) I just finished whacking off to a Veronica Mars rerun

or

B) I criticized you for using hypothetical situations, and your response was "I didn't say that, it was a hypothetical situation"
 
I think Mike Vick killed Senser's dog or something...

I've never seen someone hate on an individual so hard in my life for no particular reason.
 
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