[360] Xbox Live Marketplace/Arcade thread

[IamMedellin]

ok....so..this in No way means there will be a commercial while im running through a mission in the Border-lehnds...right?

or is that the nxt logical step?

 

[Twigg4075]

ok....so..this in No way means there will be a commercial while im running through a mission in the Border-lehnds...right?

or is that the nxt logical step?

Don't give them any ideas Med.

 

[Derrville]

So loading up netflix will prompt a commercial?

 

[Twigg4075]

So loading up netflix will prompt a commercial?

That's what it sounds like, along with Hulu, ESPN, etc. And knowing these fucking assholes, you'll get a commercial every opportunity. In between any show you watch on Netflix, Hulu, whatever.

I'm sorry, but I don't know how anyone can defend this. They keep charging us money for a service that is free on PC and PS3 and yet keep finding ways to make it shittier and shittier with jumbled fucking menus and loads of commercials and ads. They couldn't give two fucks what makes a better experience for the customer, just what lines their pockets quicker.

 

[padman59]

There has to be more people that consider ads and commercials on a paid service is a little absurd. The fact that you can't access other paid services like Netflix or Hulu+ without having a Gold membership baffles me too.

 

[Twigg4075]

And by the way Handle, I think this news deserves its own thread. I don't think most people have seen the post.

 

[Leftwich]

I don't really care. Commercials are just there, they don't make me rage, i've just learned to accept them.

 

[Twigg4075]

I don't really care. Commercials are just there, they don't make me rage, i've just learned to accept them.

And that's why MS keeps doing it.

 

[Leftwich]

And that's why MS keeps doing it.

I'm not part of the problem twiggly. See i don't do Netflix cause im an internet pirate. ESPN is maybe the only app i use and thats if the WVU games aren't on TV. My Xbox is for gaming and occasional music when i'm cleaning the apartment.

 

[Twigg4075]

I'm not part of the problem twiggly. See i don't do Netflix cause im an internet pirate. ESPN is maybe the only app i use and thats if the WVU games aren't on TV. My Xbox is for gaming and occasional music when i'm cleaning the apartment.

I don't use any of those apps either, mostly because my ISP isn't supported. But that doesn't make it any less of a douche bag and slimy move.

 

[IamMedellin]

I'm not part of the problem twiggly. See i don't do Netflix cause im an internet pirate. ESPN is maybe the only app i use and thats if the WVU games aren't on TV. My Xbox is for gaming and occasional music when i'm cleaning the apartment.

what he said...though commercials in my espn app will piss me off...

My PS3 supplies all my media :smug:

 

[Swarley]

I could care less really. We get commercials shoved down our throat on the TV and internet already anyways, it was only a matter of time. Is it annoying as fuck? Of course, but whatevs. However, I don't use a lot of the apps on the Xbox anyways except for MLB.tv and ESPN3 during the fall and winter for K-State games.

 

[leaffan]

That's what it sounds like, along with Hulu, ESPN, etc. And knowing these fucking assholes, you'll get a commercial every opportunity. In between any show you watch on Netflix, Hulu, whatever.

I'm sorry, but I don't know how anyone can defend this. They keep charging us money for a service that is free on PC and PS3 and yet keep finding ways to make it shittier and shittier with jumbled fucking menus and loads of commercials and ads. They couldn't give two fucks what makes a better experience for the customer, just what lines their pockets quicker.

*le sigh

No you shouldn't have commercials during services like Hulu and Netflix. Where you will get commercials is when using ESPN, CBS Interactive Properties GameSpot and Last.fm, Manga Entertainment, and MUZU.TV. Those companies have bought into Microsofts Advertising program so they themselves can generate income from the xbox.

http://www.fastcocreate.com/1680679/microsoft-emphasizes-xbox-live-as-interactive-ad-platform

Entertainment apps on the xbox have now surpassed game time on the xbox. Which is huge because microsoft is doing exactly what they wanted to do and that was put out a product that will act as everything from gaming system to media center. I actually have to laugh because I thought this idea was rediculous when they first stated. This is what they wanted to do all those years ago when we first saw the 360. Whats even funnier is the kinect which everyone (including myself) thought was hugely useless is turning into a glorified wireless and handsetless remote. The new ad system in place will actually interact with whats being shown with the kinect. It's scary because if logitech lets say came out with something similar to it we'd (I use this loosely because I myself don't even own one of those harmony remotes) all be rushing to get it.

http://www.amazon.com/Kinect-Sensor...A298/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1335484806&sr=8-2 <-- Kinect

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Universal-Remote-Screen/dp/B00119T6NQ <-- Logitech Harmony One remote (this is the middle to top of the line one) The cheapest one is about $40.

This has little to no effect on the gaming side of things and like most everything microsoft has done will not affect myself because if I want to put a game in the system and play thats what it'll do. Live continues to function almost perfectly and I don't have any problems there.

Now do I have a problem with the idea itself of seeing little commercials before watching something on espn, yah I hate it on youtube but I have to stop and think if it wasn't for that advertising revenue I highly doubt youtube as itself would exsist any longer and I have to think that is the same reason microsoft along with the companies who are actually supporting this are doing it.

 

[Twigg4075]

I downloaded NBA Jam. If anyone wants to lose to the Celtics, let me know.

 

[Twigg4075]

Anyone try Bloodforge?

 

[jms493]

Anyone try Bloodforge?

I was interested but watching the quick look from GB left me uninterested. Artwork is cool but the game meh. Maybe I will try demo.

 

[Twigg4075]

Now do I have a problem with the idea itself of seeing little commercials before watching something on espn, yah I hate it on youtube but I have to stop and think if it wasn't for that advertising revenue I highly doubt youtube as itself would exsist any longer and I have to think that is the same reason microsoft along with the companies who are actually supporting this are doing it.

Yeah, but Youtube doesn't charge you a yearly subscription, which is the main point. If Live was free, by all means, litter the thing with ads so that you can 1) Make money because you're a business and 2) Make money to help support the service and expand it.

The other point that seriously bugs me is that MS constantly tries to blow smoke up everyones ass by saying "We revamped the Live dashboard to streamline the experience for you the consumer!" Go fuck yourself. No you didn't. You changed the dash so that you had more real estate for ads. And now they want to go further. What's the next step? An ad before your game boots up?

 

[leaffan]

Yeah, but Youtube doesn't charge you a yearly subscription, which is the main point. If Live was free, by all means, litter the thing with ads so that you can 1) Make money because you're a business and 2) Make money to help support the service and expand it.

The other point that seriously bugs me is that MS constantly tries to blow smoke up everyones ass by saying "We revamped the Live dashboard to streamline the experience for you the consumer!" Go fuck yourself. No you didn't. You changed the dash so that you had more real estate for ads. And now they want to go further. What's the next step? An ad before your game boots up?

Your the only one that seems to have issues with the dash and this has been covered greatly. At this point its not our problem you can't figure it out. On the flip side of this for us people that don't have a problem with the improvements to the dash a lot of the ad revenue they've gained from said ads has allowed them to sink more money into live's dash and its back end. Its really a win situation for the avg. gamer but your still stuck on that old idea that paying for something should give you ad free content.

 

[Twigg4075]

Your the only one that seems to have issues with the dash and this has been covered greatly. At this point its not our problem you can't figure it out. On the flip side of this for us people that don't have a problem with the improvements to the dash a lot of the ad revenue they've gained from said ads has allowed them to sink more money into live's dash and its back end. Its really a win situation for the avg. gamer but your still stuck on that old idea that paying for something should give you ad free content.

LOL, really? Just me? Yeah, it's just me...except not at all. Every gaming outlet the world over complains how shitty it is now. Giant Bomb, Games Radar, Joystiq, Kotaku, you name it. Hell, during the podcast I did with the 40 Cast guys last night one of the hosts mentioned how bad the dash has become. Just because the majority of the people on THIS site don't seem to have a problem with it doesn't mean jack shit. That's one thing I never understood about this place. It's not so much that there are Xbox for MS fanboys, but more like Xbox apologists or people that are overly tolerant of their shitty practices.

Just look at some of the comments in from the very link that Handle It originally posted:

Comment #2 by WonderCaliban
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:49:10 AM

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The Dash is definitely less user friendly.

Adverts on a paid for service?

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Comment #5 by Nutty Scouser
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:52:17 AM

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what a joke i dont wanna see adverts, there should be a option for you to turn them off or on, you know give the customer a choice before forcing this shit on them....

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Comment #7 by mademaniiiiii
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:55:15 AM

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Next there be putting adverts in online gaming. Your get a kill in a fps or be ahead in a lap on a race then an advert will kick in about some hair product lol

Comment #9 by mhkerr
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:56:52 AM

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Does more advertising mean a cheaper live subscription then?
Thought the point of gold was to help maintain the live service. If advertising is now gonna help pay for it will we as customers see any benefit?

Comment #11 by LavaLampBamboo
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:57:33 AM

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I suppose this would be better if it then resulted in Xbox Gold being free. I'd be happy with a few ads here and there if I wasn't paying for the service.

In fact, wasn't that a rumour a few years back, that they were going to make Silver multiplayer as well, but you had to put up with adverts?

Comment #155 by ash356
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 02:03:04 PM

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Can I just say, all these people sarcastically claiming 'ADS ON A PAID FOR SERVICE? LIKE TV SUBSCRIPTIONS? WOW, THAT'S NEWS', are generally just being the Devils advocate, for the sake of, well, being a devils advocate.
Maybe ads would be fine, if MS weren't already making us question as to why we actually pay in the first place. Let's list:
Crap member 'perks', i.e. the ****ty DOTW we've been encountering recently.
Barely any exclusives anymore, in comparison to PS3.
Having Kinect shoved down our throats all the sodding time.
Increased prices on every DAMN thing on the marketplace.
Oh, and servers being taken down after just one year by EA. Which is exactly what Gold is supposed to prevent.
... and the list goes on.
Frankly, if Microsoft actually made us feel like we're still getting something from our Gold, we'd likely all be happy. But we're pretty much just getting ripped off nowadays.

Keep in mind that is a Xbox fan site. And yet somehow they aren't anywhere near as tolerant as you guys are about this shit. I read through as many comments as I could because there are so many. I saw ONE that was as tolerant as you guys with something along the lines of "I just play games so whatever". Everyone else is fucking pissed.

But yeah, it's just me.

I also found it funny that when I pointed out to Seth how the past several weeks the Giant Bomb guys have been complaining about how difficult it is to even find content on the service, he worth it off as "I really don't listen to what they say anymore, their stories about non-gaming are more interesting." Really? He tried to play it off as if the GB guys are some of the most popular and well respected guys in gaming journalism. If they would've said they love it and have no problem with it he would've been pointing out how wrong I am for my thoughts on that matter. Funny how that works.

 

[leaffan]

Except not at all. Every gaming outlet the world over complains how shitty it is now. Giant Bomb, Games Radar, Joystiq, Kotaku, you name it. Hell, during the podcast I did with the 40 Cast guys last night one of the hosts mentioned how bad the dash has become. Just because the majority of the people on THIS site don't seem to have a problem with it doesn't mean jack shit. That's one thing I never understood about this place. It's not so much that there are Xbox for MS fanboys, but more like Xbox apologists or people that are overly tolerant of their shitty practices.

Yah I'm sure.

And that podcast I would just love to listen to. If its like some of the vsn podcasts I've listened too I'm for sure going to have some moments of facepalming and outright laughter at some of the bone headed points brought up.