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Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Bears

Rush said:
5 games into the season. This should have waited until the halfway break at least.

Kyle McGrossman will show up. Don't worry. There's a reason I hated him in Chicago.
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hate rod turner, he's still there too :(

It makes no sense to say Kyle McGrossman since Orton at no time ever played similar to Rex "Chicks Dig the Longball" Grossman. He's not gonna all of a sudden start chucking it downfield into double coverage. Jay Cutler might though.

There's a reason Chicago never had a good QB and it's not just cause of bad drafts and signings.

Plus Orton wasn't even playing that bad in Chicago pre-injury last year.
 
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Rush said:
5 games into the season. This should have waited until the halfway break at least.

Kyle McGrossman will show up. Don't worry. There's a reason I hated him in Chicago.
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LMAO, no he won't we have an amazing head coach that knows how to get the best out of his QB's.

McD is on top of his game and Orton is showing he has more skills then just being a "game manager."

Have fun with Cutler, the meltdown will start this Sunday night in Hotlanta baby!
 
Is anyone surprised that you surround Orton with talent on offense and a great D and he wins? He went 11-5 as a rookie using the same formula.

Bottom line is Cutler is a better QB than Orton and Orton has just found himself in a great position all of a sudden with Marshall, Royal, and a REAL surprising Denver D.

Cutler has been playing great in Chicago. Hell, even after the disaster that was his first half vs Green Bay he still took the team down the field in the 4th and gave them the lead before the defense coughed it up. Both are playing well and both teams are happy.
 
Firsttimer said:
Is anyone surprised that you surround Orton with talent on offense and a great D and he wins? He went 11-5 as a rookie using the same formula.

Bottom line is Cutler is a better QB than Orton and Orton has just found himself in a great position all of a sudden with Marshall, Royal, and a REAL surprising Denver D.

Cutler has been playing great in Chicago. Hell, even after the disaster that was his first half vs Green Bay he still took the team down the field in the 4th and gave them the lead before the defense coughed it up. Both are playing well and both teams are happy.
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This the same FirstTimer that argued until he was blue in the face that Grossman > Orton?

I think it is.
 
glenwillett said:
Eddie Royal >>>>> any Bears wideout.
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O rly?


You were wrong on that though.


Royal 18-148 0 TD's
Hester 14-189 2 TD's
Knox 14-190 2 TD's
Bennett 15-200 0 TD's


And Da Bears have played one less game..



But I would wait and see what Orton and Cutler do the rest of the way to Quote that much shit lol.
 
Larry said:
This the same FirstTimer that argued until he was blue in the face that Grossman > Orton?

I think it is.
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Statistically it was true. The Bears offense produced better under Grossman in 05 better than it did under Orton. So yes Grossman>>Orton in 05 and 06.

Orton never really showed he could be a starting QB in the NFL until last season or late in the 2007 season IMO. It was really the first year he was anything more than a game manager.
 
zack54attack said:
O rly?


You were wrong on that though.


Royal 18-148 0 TD's
Hester 14-189 2 TD's
Knox 14-190 2 TD's
Bennett 15-200 0 TD's


And Da Bears have played one less game..



But I would wait and see what Orton and Cutler do the rest of the way to Quote that much shit lol.
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Lol at this post contradicting itself. You want to wait and see what Orton and Cutler do, but use what's happened so far in the season to make a judgment on Royal vs. the Bears WRs.
 
Why does it always have to be one or the other?

Can't it just be a good trade?

The Bears needed a playmaker at QB to make up for less than stellar WR. They got that.

The Broncos wanted Cassell, but couldn't do it, so they grabbed a guy that good manage the game well and has success in that type of system. They got that.

It always has to be THIS GUY > THIS GUY. People hate when trades work out for both sides, who cares... it was a good trade and each side has benefited.
 
To compare Cutler and Orton is just plain moronic.

Are you telling me Denver wouldn't want Cutler back? If the answer is no, there is no point in discussing any further. I wouldn't argue with you for the same reason I don't argue with my 4 year old Daughters.

Same for Chicago fans...Do I want Orton back....No. If, you would like to argue, see above.

I also am a big fan of Orton, I thought he always a very good QB. I glad he is succeeding. He is just not as good as Cutler, that is not a bad thing, it just is what it is.
 
Killa Pand said:
Lol at this post contradicting itself. You want to wait and see what Orton and Cutler do, but use what's happened so far in the season to make a judgment on Royal vs. the Bears WRs.
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Reading is a skill...He clearly prefaced those stats stating it was too early to "quote that much shit lol"

Isn't the LOL pointing that out.
 
TDAUG said:
To compare Cutler and Orton is just plain moronic.

Are you telling me Denver wouldn't want Cutler back? If the answer is no, there is no point in discussing any further. I wouldn't argue with you for the same reason I don't argue with my 4 year old Daughters.

Same for Chicago fans...Do I want Orton back....No. If, you would like to argue, see above.

I also am a big fan of Orton, I thought he always a very good QB. I glad he is succeeding. He is just not as good as Cutler, that is not a bad thing, it just is what it is.
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Again, it worked for what both teams wanted to accomplish.

Meatheads need to have a 1 v 1, good vs. bad, who is better, etc. It can't just be a zero-sum trade.
 
FedEx227 said:
Why does it always have to be one or the other?

Can't it just be a good trade?

The Bears needed a playmaker at QB to make up for less than stellar WR. They got that.

The Broncos wanted Cassell, but couldn't do it, so they grabbed a guy that good manage the game well and has success in that type of system. They got that.

It always has to be THIS GUY > THIS GUY. People hate when trades work out for both sides, who cares... it was a good trade and each side has benefited.
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Excellent post.

I'm glad to see Orton succeeding in Denver as he is in a perfect situation for him. Great defense, good WR's and strong running game and Cutler is exactly what the Bears needed at QB to make up for a lack of good WR's. Both teams won on this deal.
 
TDAUG said:
Reading is a skill...He clearly prefaced those stats stating it was too early to "quote that much shit lol"

Isn't the LOL pointing that out.
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If it's too early in the season to quote all that and bump this thread, it's too early to make a judgment on Royal vs the Bears Wrs based on the stats they've put up so far.

I agree with you though on the trade being good so far for both teams, it's good to see not all bears fans were shitting on Orton for no reason.
 
glenwillett said:
That was kind of the point of me bumping everyone's posts who said how screwed Denver was now..
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Well, to be honest, when the trade went down Denver was a trainwreck. Marshall wasn't in the plans, McDaniels was rubbing people the wrong way, they blew the Cassell deal, pissed off their franchise QB, etc. So I suppose that's fair.
 
Killa Pand said:
I agree with you though on the trade being good so far for both teams, it's good to see not all bears fans were shitting on Orton for no reason.
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Bear fans are the biggest meatballs probably in the history of all sports "Butkus", "DaCoach", "85 Bearzz".

How anyone can not appreciate what Orton did with this crap team is kidding themselves.

That being said, I believe in Todays football a great QB will keep you good for a long time. I think Cutler is on the cusp of being great. Time will tell, and time is when the Bears actually have a WR that can command a double team. ala Marshall. As for WR right now, I have A.Johnson #1 and Marshall #2.

Everyone expected Olsen to have a break out season and maybe he will, but up until now, he is the guy that is doubled every play not a WR. Until that changes, the Bears will be what they are...and that I haven't decided yet. This upcoming week might settle that.

Orton with Marshall a top 10 QB
Orton with Bears wr's...Maybe 12th or 13th, I still might say top 10 only because he just wins.

Cutler with Marshall top 5-6
Cutler with Bears wr's top 10.
 
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