Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Bears

[FirstTimer]

How anyone can not appreciate what Orton did with this crap team is kidding themselves.

The Bears weren't a "crap" team around Orton. He had two good TE's a running back in his great rookie season and a solid OLine. The WR's were awful noone would dispute that but the Bears were far from a crap team.

I wish Orton all the best but would take this trade any day every day in a heartbeat if they went back and did it all over again.

As for WR right now, I have A.Johnson #1 and Marshall #2.

Larry Fitzgerald>>>>>both of these guys.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Statistically it was true. The Bears offense produced better under Grossman in 05 better than it did under Orton. So yes Grossman>>Orton in 05 and 06.

Orton never really showed he could be a starting QB in the NFL until last season or late in the 2007 season IMO. It was really the first year he was anything more than a game manager.

Orton > Grossman

Forever and Always.

 

[TDAUG]

The Bears weren't a "crap" team around Orton. He had two good TE's a great running back in his rookie season and a solid OLine. The WR's were awful noone would dispute that but the Bears were far from a crap team.

I wish Orton all the best but would take this trade any day every day in a heartbeat if they went back and did it all over again.


Larry Fitzgerald>>>>>both of these guys.

1. The biggest of biggest LOL's is at the great running back...Did #34 rise for the dead?

2. Olsen is ok, but gets more credit than he deserves. Hasn't been to a probowl or even sniffed one.

3. D. Clark doesn't help a team get to a Superbowl, he is just a guy.

4. If there Oline was so good, why did 3/5th's get replaced?

I'll take A.Johnson and Marshall. Buy saying that, I am nottaking anything away from Fitz, but no way is he better than A.Johnson. He is hands down the best WR in football, no close second. Marshall and Fitz can be 2a and 2b.

I just have watched more Denver football over the last 2 years to see what a MAN Marshall is. He is crazy good. He is TO from 4 years ago with better hands.

 

[FirstTimer]

1. The biggest of biggest LOL's is at the great running back...Did #34 rise for the dead?

2. Olsen is ok, but gets more credit that he deserves. Hasn't been to a probowl or even sniffed one.

3. D. Clark doesn't help a team get to a Superbowl, he is just a guy.

4. If there Oline was so good, why did 3/5th's get replaced?

I'll take A.Johnson and Marshall. Buy saying that, I am nottaking anything away from Fitz, but no way is he better than A.Johnson. He is hands down the best WR in football, no close second. Marshall and Fitz can be 2a and 2b.

I just have watched more Denver football over the last 2 years to see what a MAN Marshall is. He is crazy good. He is TO from 4 years ago with better hands.

1. I misspoke and meant to say a running back who had a "great rookie year". In any case Forte had a great rookie season and helped Orton out a lot.

2. Olsen is a good TE. Pairing him and Desmond Clark together, especially when lacking a true WR threat helps a QB out a lot. I could give two shits about Olsen sniffing a Pro Bowl. He was the best pass catcher that team had last year and the NFL must think that he's pretty damn good seeing as he's been getting doubled like crazy this year.

3. What does Dez Clark helping a team to the Super Bowl have to do with disagreeing with your comment about the Bears being a "crap" team? Oh wait...Nothing. Even if Dez is just "a guy" he's still an above average NFL TE and is not a crap player on a crap team.

4. Go back and look at sacks, YPR, etc last year and anyone would agree that the Bears Oline last year was at least good. They overachieved for what a lot of people thought they would do but they still had a very good year. As for 3/5 of them being replaced way to ignore the circumstances...

John Tait retired. He was replaced by Orlando Pace.
John St Clair was signed by the Browns. 2008 1st Round pick Chris Williams has replaced him.

Kruetz is still here, as is Garza, Beekman(last years starting left guard) has been battling with Frank Omiyale ever since he was signed for starting time. 3/5ths of the Bears starters last year are still on the roster and they are even deeper than last year because of having guys like Beekman and Schaffer on the roster and as backups.

It's not like the Bears went into the offseason and blew up the offensive line because they were bad last year. They just replaced guys who left and built depth. Pretty simple.

I will say though so far this year the OL has been a huge disappoint thus far. They have not performed anywhere near as well as expected.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Someone's mad that most of the most egregiously incorrect of those statements all came from him..

And whats that? You must be the only person in the world that believes 5 games equals a season. How dumb are you gonna feel if you're boasting about this shit and your team still falls on its face? I said from the beginning I wish Orton and the Broncos the best, I love Orton as a human being. Im still not thrilled with him as a player, but its pretty well documented from ALL Bear fans that Orton never did a lot to lose us games, he just didnt do a whole lot to win them, either.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I just want to punch Glenwilletts gramma in the face.

Wow... completely uncalled for.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Let's do it then.. $50 says Denver is looking down on the Chargers by the end of the year.

How come you werent willing to make that bet at the beginning of the season?

 

[KoRnStARr]

The Bronco fans are bandwagoners... none of them believed in this team, the coach, or had any real hope for this season.

 

[KoRnStARr]

It's a generalization.

As in most Bronco fans, can't help the .5 percent who still believed.

 

[zack54attack]

Lol at this post contradicting itself. You want to wait and see what Orton and Cutler do, but use what's happened so far in the season to make a judgment on Royal vs. the Bears WRs.

Exactly what I'm stating.

He went through and quoted all the things people said bad about Denver, because they are 5-0 now.

So I went through and quoted something he said about the Bears WR's, because they are better than Royal.



I know it's way too early to see who got the better end of the trade.

I just wanted to see the reaction on Glenn, when i pointed out something that he said wrong. Just like he did to everyone else.

 

[1ke]

Basically what I'm saying is that if Eddie Royal was on the Bears he would be on top of that list you posted.

Would he be on the top of that list because Cutler would be making him look like he looked last year?

And in all seriousness....I still dont know why some people are so caught up in what other people are doing on other teams. Fa real, I think Jay is better than Kyle, Kyle is gone, why would I give a fuck about what cpt Neckbeard is doing.

He is doing great, ok congrats, yet it is only 5 games into the season.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Yeah I watched her die at 2 am on Wednesday... You punching her in the face would have been the icing on the cake. I have never wanted to see someone on a message board in real life this bad. Karma's a bitch...

Ouch...wrong time to fuck with you. My bad. Yeah I watched my gramma die when I was 19, I was in the room for 10 hours that night. I didn't know you went through that. My bad. Listen, as much as I love to hate you, I understand you're pain my man. Your gramma actually looks a lot like my old gramma. I wish I could buy you a beer right now. Keep your head up and try to remember any recipe your gramma gave you. I made my gramma's rice puding just last week, and it's been 11 years since she passed. Sorry about my bad timing...I'll have to give you a few weeks grace period before I jump in with another hate post. Much luv my man. Much luv. :drunk:

PS-Karma is BS.

 

[GoChargers]

We all know you're at 5-0 and ontop of the division. If this comes back to bite you in the ass, you will never be living it down. I would've waited until 7-1 or 8-0

 

[Bear Pand]

Exactly what I'm stating.

He went through and quoted all the things people said bad about Denver, because they are 5-0 now.

So I went through and quoted something he said about the Bears WR's, because they are better than Royal.



I know it's way too early to see who got the better end of the trade.

I just wanted to see the reaction on Glenn, when i pointed out something that he said wrong. Just like he did to everyone else.

The Bears WRs are not better than Eddie Royal.

 

[zack54attack]

The Bears WRs are not better than Eddie Royal.

I guess not. I mean they all have better stats than him, but yet they arent? hmmmm...


But then your excuse is going to be "Orton has too many weapons"... well so does Cutler.

 

[mgoblue2290]

I guess not. I mean they all have better stats than him, but yet they arent? hmmmm...


But then your excuse is going to be "Orton has too many weapons"... well so does Cutler.

Ever heard of a rough start? By your logic, Matt Forte is only as good as Thomas Jones. They both have 271 yards and Jones has 5 tds to Forte's 1. So I guess Thomas Jones is the superior player.

Also, Steven Smith of the Giants is the best receiver in the league.

 

[zack54attack]

Ever heard of a rough start? By your logic, Matt Forte is only as good as Thomas Jones. They both have 271 yards and Jones has 5 tds to Forte's 1. So I guess Thomas Jones is the superior player.

Also, Steven Smith of the Giants is the best receiver in the league.

And by Glen's logic, Orton is better than Cutler because he is 5-0.


Cant you see I was just making a point by saying that it's too early to be doing this shit? thats why I brought up the Royal thing..

 

[BroncoBlue]

I just want to punch Glenwilletts gramma in the face.

Seriously you are one of the worst posters here... Please stop making yourself look worse!

-rep is definitely in your future.

 

[TDAUG]

1. I misspoke and meant to say a running back who had a "great rookie year". In any case Forte had a great rookie season and helped Orton out a lot.

2. Olsen is a good TE. Pairing him and Desmond Clark together, especially when lacking a true WR threat helps a QB out a lot. I could give two shits about Olsen sniffing a Pro Bowl. He was the best pass catcher that team had last year and the NFL must think that he's pretty damn good seeing as he's been getting doubled like crazy this year.

3. What does Dez Clark helping a team to the Super Bowl have to do with disagreeing with your comment about the Bears being a "crap" team? Oh wait...Nothing. Even if Dez is just "a guy" he's still an above average NFL TE and is not a crap player on a crap team.

4. Go back and look at sacks, YPR, etc last year and anyone would agree that the Bears Oline last year was at least good. They overachieved for what a lot of people thought they would do but they still had a very good year. As for 3/5 of them being replaced way to ignore the circumstances...

John Tait retired. He was replaced by Orlando Pace.
John St Clair was signed by the Browns. 2008 1st Round pick Chris Williams has replaced him.

Kruetz is still here, as is Garza, Beekman(last years starting left guard) has been battling with Frank Omiyale ever since he was signed for starting time. 3/5ths of the Bears starters last year are still on the roster and they are even deeper than last year because of having guys like Beekman and Schaffer on the roster and as backups.

It's not like the Bears went into the offseason and blew up the offensive line because they were bad last year. They just replaced guys who left and built depth. Pretty simple.

I will say though so far this year the OL has been a huge disappoint thus far. They have not performed anywhere near as well as expected.

You will not find a bigger Bear fan than me...They were a crap team.

A crap team does not make the playoffs in a bad division, they were a crap team!

 

[GoChargers]

You're the same guy who said they would come clean and say they knew nothing about the Broncos if they beat NE, why would I believe you when you say you would have waited. And you picked us to go 5-11, nice job being wrong already.

I'm not wrong already. You're 5-0, I don't know if math is your strong point but you can still finish 5-11.

Will I be wrong? yes.