MMA Thread

[Liquidrob]

you two are still fighting? like 3 pages straight. two guys who refuse to end any argument without being declared the winner

for the love of zulu stfu.

anywho, who do you guys like for the fights coming up next weekend?

Strikeforce June 6th on Showtime

Main Card
-Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1)
-Brett Rogers (9-0) vs. Andrei Arlovski (15-6)
-Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
-Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)
-Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)

WEC June 7th on Versus

Main Card
Mike Brown 21-4-0 Vs. Urijah Faber 22-2-0
Jose Aldo 14-1-0 Vs. Cub Swanson 13-2-0
Donald Cerrone 9-1-1 Vs. James Krause 10-0-0
Josh Grispi 10-1-0 Vs. Jens Pulver 22-11-1

 

[Liquidrob]

anywho, who do you guys like for the fights coming up next weekend?

Strikeforce June 6th on Showtime

Main Card
-Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1)
-Brett Rogers (9-0) vs. Andrei Arlovski (15-6)
-Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
-Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)
-Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)

WEC June 7th on Versus

Main Card
Mike Brown 21-4-0 Vs. Urijah Faber 22-2-0
Jose Aldo 14-1-0 Vs. Cub Swanson 13-2-0
Donald Cerrone 9-1-1 Vs. James Krause 10-0-0
Josh Grispi 10-1-0 Vs. Jens Pulver 22-11-1

I dont think Shields will be able to get Lawler down enough to win, Jake is really not that good of a stand up guy, Robbie has good takedown defense and should batter Shields on his feet, Jake needs to stay at 170

AA just to polished and fast for Rogers, could be interesting if Brett can land a couple solid hay makers, but AA is to skilled for Rogers, Rogers took to big of a step up in comp for this 1, props to him, but it will get ugly for The Grimm

Diaz/Shields could be a FOTY canidate, I think Diaz will jab him up and get the win, Scott waits way to long to throw his right hand, Diaz will get off early and often

I'm pulling for the Monster, think he should be able to grind out a decision win against Whitehead

Baroni needs this win, has a nice little streak at 170, but the comp has been sub par, pulling for Phil

Mike Brown is just to big and strong for Faber, before the KO in there first fight, Brown was pushing Faber all around the cage, Faber should go down to 135 after this fight and battle Torres

Aldo should be able to control the distance against Cub, should pick him apart

Cerrone will get back on track in this 1 and be in line for another title shot

I am pulling for Jens, but the years are catching up to him, dont see him winning this one even though I hope he does

 

[RosettaStoned]

I said 'size was irrelevent is this arguement',

That's what you said after you edited your post. Either way, you said it's irrelevant in this argument, then you used it in this argument.

 

[RosettaStoned]

size is irrelevent is this arguement

......

GSp fights at 170! always has, his entire career has been at 170

 

[Liquidrob]

That's what you said after you edited your post. Either way, you said it's irrelevant in this argument, then you used it in this argument.

let me use one of your lines, learn to read, size is irrelevent when discussing 2 fighters who are fighting in the 170 class who are/were legit 170 fighter, if you havent figured it out yet I dont know what to tell you

you cant even agree that when GSP beat BJ the first time it was a quality win or worth anything

if you dont see that was a win worth something than you dont know shit about MMA and I cant continue having this debate with you because you're hard headed to the facts

hey, post another pic, that will help your arguement

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

-Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1)
if lawler cant knock him out shields will take him down and control him there for the victory but if it stays standing lawler is the clear favorite. tough one to pick
-Brett Rogers (9-0) vs. Andrei Arlovski (15-6)
rogers aint doin work here. aa by vicious knockout
-Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
fight of the night right here. diaz gonna box him up and knock smith out
-Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)
big fan of randleman but hes aging and doesnt have the same KO power.whitehead will control the fight and win via decision, plus i have his flaming skull affliction tee so i have to pick him
-Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)
cant pick against the best eva, the NYBA. has looked great with a new dedication since dropping the weight. someone is getting knocked out, im thinking its gonna be riggs.


Mike Brown 21-4-0 Vs. Urijah Faber 22-2-0
Jose Aldo 14-1-0 Vs. Cub Swanson 13-2-0
Donald Cerrone 9-1-1 Vs. James Krause 10-0-0
Josh Grispi 10-1-0 Vs. Jens Pulver 22-11-1[/QUOTE]

 

[RosettaStoned]

let me use one of your lines, learn to read, size is irrelevent when discussing 2 fighters who are fighting in the 170 class who are/were legit 170 fighter, if you havent figured it out yet I dont know what to tell you

Even if one weighs 168, and one weighs 195? Please explain how that isn't relevant. And it's relevant, with an A, dumbfuck.

you cant even agree that when GSP beat BJ the first time it was a quality win or worth anything

It's not impressive to beat somebody 25-30 pounds lighter than you.

 

[Bigpapa42]

It's not impressive to beat somebody 25-30 pounds lighter than you.

So Brock Lesnar will basically never have an impressive win....?

 

[RosettaStoned]

So Brock Lesnar will basically never have an impressive win....?

Fedor would be about the only win that would impress me.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Fedor would be about the only win that would impress me.

really? you wouldnt be impressed if he beat the likes of AA,Barnett,Monson,Nog,Overeem? i know i sure would be

 

[RosettaStoned]

really? you wouldnt be impressed if he beat the likes of AA,Barnett,Monson,Nog,Overeem? i know i sure would be

Barnett I would.

Nog is washed up at this point, Monson is meh, AA doesn't have the chin for the HW division, and Overeem is unproven at HW.

 

[Liquidrob]

Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1)
if lawler cant knock him out shields will take him down and control him there for the victory but if it stays standing lawler is the clear favorite. tough one to pick
-Brett Rogers (9-0) vs. Andrei Arlovski (15-6)
rogers aint doin work here. aa by vicious knockout
-Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
fight of the night right here. diaz gonna box him up and knock smith out
-Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)
big fan of randleman but hes aging and doesnt have the same KO power.whitehead will control the fight and win via decision, plus i have his flaming skull affliction tee so i have to pick him
-Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)
cant pick against the best eva, the NYBA. has looked great with a new dedication since dropping the weight. someone is getting knocked out, im thinking its gonna be riggs.


Mike Brown 21-4-0 Vs. Urijah Faber 22-2-0
Jose Aldo 14-1-0 Vs. Cub Swanson 13-2-0
Donald Cerrone 9-1-1 Vs. James Krause 10-0-0
Josh Grispi 10-1-0 Vs. Jens Pulver 22-11-1

good picks, I just dont see Jake getting lawler down enough times though

lol @ the whitehead pick

 

[Liquidrob]

Fedor would be about the only win that would impress me.

why, he would have 40+ lbs on him

oh I forgot, it only applies to BJ vs GSP

EDIT: actually I dont care enough, dont reply, thanks

 

[Liquidrob]

Trainer Shawn Tompkins thoughts on beating Machida

"I've got two plans if any of my fighters ever fight Lyoto Machida," Tompkins told Cofield and Cokin on ESPN Radio1100 in Las Vegas. "First of all, I'm going to go to three of the best karate schools in the area, get their best guys, and work that timing. Because that's all it is: He has a different timing than everybody else. And secondly, you need to be a wrestler. You need to be chest-to-chest with that guy, and you need to be either pressing him against the cage or putting him on his back."

 

[Liquidrob]

In reference to what Tompkins says and someone on the underground brought up, would be interesting to see Randy drop back down and take a shot at Machida

Randy is really tough when picking his fights when moving up and down in weight, would be an interesting match

 

[Liquidrob]

Awesome

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[CrimsonGhost56]

Barnett I would.

Nog is washed up at this point, Monson is meh, AA doesn't have the chin for the HW division, and Overeem is unproven at HW.

i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.

 

[Liquidrob]

i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.

yeah, said it earlier, Overeem is 1 of the worst match ups for Brock

K1 level striking, ADCC level grappling and 1 of the best guillotine chokes in MMA

I would put money on Overeem if that fight every happened

 

[RosettaStoned]

why, he would have 40+ lbs on him

oh I forgot, it only applies to BJ vs GSP

EDIT: actually I dont care enough, dont reply, thanks

Because Fedor is the best fighter in the world, and 'undefeated'.

 

[Steel Mamba]

i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't Nog hurt or sick going into that fight? Unless I'm thinking of someone else I swear he was just getting over staff infection before his fight, so if that's the case we definitely can't start calling Nog washed up.