Official Notre Dame Football Thread

[Irish]

I love Kelly blowing up on the team.

Despite the haters, the team is BCS capable. He knows it, and so does the team.

ND outplayed USF for 85% of the game. But the fuckups cost the game. The team needs to be coached hard. The mistakes made were unacceptable for the talent this team has.

The only problem with going hard on the players too much can cause is loss of confidence, but these guys are playing football at ND, I am sure they have never been guys with low self esteem.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Despite the haters, the team is BCS capable.

I really don't understand how you can make this statement, especially not right now.

They just lost to a team that finished 5th in the Big East last year, that only brought 11 starters back. What did you take out of this game that made you think BCS capable?

 

[Irish]

I really don't understand how you can make this statement, especially not right now.

They just lost to a team that finished 5th in the Big East last year, that only brought 11 starters back. What did you take out of this game that made you think BCS capable?

Because they only have to finish 8th in the polls to be.

And like I said they outplayed USF for most of the game. If they play without mistakes, which they are capable of doing, they dominate the game. Obviously BCS teams don't make those mistakes and that is really all ND has to do.

For the first time in a long time ND was the much better team and lost. A couple years ago ND would be on the same level as USF. A very even match. If ND doesn't turn the ball over 5 times they cruise to victory. And still they turned the ball over 5 times and only lost by 3. That leads me to believe they are a much better team than years past where they play down to teams like Syracuse and Navy.

Sorry to sound cliche but ND didn't lose to USF. ND beat themselves. And that hasn't been the case for a long time.

 

[NAHSTE]

I really don't understand how you can make this statement, especially not right now.

They just lost to a team that finished 5th in the Big East last year, that only brought 11 starters back. What did you take out of this game that made you think BCS capable?

Typical Notre Dame delusions.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I love Kelly blowing up on the team.

Despite the haters, the team is BCS capable. He knows it, and so does the team.

ND outplayed USF for 85% of the game. But the fuckups cost the game. The team needs to be coached hard. The mistakes made were unacceptable for the talent this team has.

The only problem with going hard on the players too much can cause is loss of confidence, but these guys are playing football at ND, I am sure they have never been guys with low self esteem.

Amazing how you guys still think this is 1973.

 

[NAHSTE]

Amazing how you guys still think this is 1973.

That sums up Notre Dame football in a nutshell.

 

[Irish]

Amazing how you guys still think this is 1973.

I am sure players at schools like Tulsa have high confidence. The guys that go on to play FBS football usually aren't the guys that cut their wrists in high school.

And believe it or not ND recruits some of the most arrogant people in the NCAA.

 

[padman59]

I am sure players at schools like Tulsa have high confidence. The guys that go on to play FBS football usually aren't the guys that cut their wrists in high school.

And believe it or not ND recruits some of the most arrogant people in the NCAA.

That might be part of the problem TBH.

 

[Irish]

That might be part of the problem TBH.

It comes with the territory when you recruit 4 and 5 star kids.

 

[NAHSTE]

It comes with the territory when you recruit 4 and 5 star kids.

I think you mean when you recruit 3 star kids who get the customary Notre Dame star bump.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I love Kelly blowing up on the team.

Despite the haters, the team is BCS capable. He knows it, and so does the team.

ND outplayed USF for 85% of the game. But the fuckups cost the game. The team needs to be coached hard. The mistakes made were unacceptable for the talent this team has.

The only problem with going hard on the players too much can cause is loss of confidence, but these guys are playing football at ND, I am sure they have never been guys with low self esteem.

:jonesy:

They'll be "BCS capable" until Michigan bitch slaps them next week.

 

[Irish]

I think you mean when you recruit 3 star kids who get the customary Notre Dame star bump.

The kids that get a ND star bump are recruited nationally. It isn't like the Indiana 3 stars get much love. But I am sure once an SEC school starts to recruit a kid they never get a boost in stars.

 

[Irish]

:jonesy:

They'll be "BCS capable" until Michigan bitch slaps them next week.

Put up 250 yards of more total offense than USF.
Had 300 yards passing in one half, almost 100 yards rushing in another.
Held USF to a 3 yard per carry average and didn't allow a run longer than 15 yards on offense.
Michael Floyd.

Like I said ND doesn't turn it over 5 times, they cruise. Eliminate the turnovers, and this is a really good team.

 

[NAHSTE]

The kids that get a ND star bump are recruited nationally. It isn't like the Indiana 3 stars get much love. But I am sure once an SEC school starts to recruit a kid they never get a boost in stars.

The difference being that they actually live up to their pedigree more often than not.

 

[Irish]

The difference being that they actually live up to their pedigree more often than not.

I wouldn't say it more often than not because the SEC has their fair share of duds. But it isn't fair to compare one school to an entire conference.

 

[Irish]

I see Hasselbeck is in here, but I have to go drink since it is 5 pm, so I will defend ND later.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Like I said ND doesn't turn it over 5 times, they cruise. Eliminate the turnovers, and this is a really good team.

But here's the thing... they did turn it over 5 times! Shoot, Tommy Rees got picked off twice.

Turnovers happen. You may want to defend them by saying ND gave the game away, but USF still had to pick those balls off and take advantage of them.

The argument that one team didn't win, that the opponent simply beat themselves is among the worst in football and easily my least favorite.

 

[FirstTimer]

I've been a fan of Brian Kelly for a while... but he lost me yesterday with his blowups on the sideline.

Do. Not. Care.

I really don't understand how you can make this statement, especially not right now.

They just lost to a team that finished 5th in the Big East last year, that only brought 11 starters back. What did you take out of this game that made you think BCS capable?

The defense still looked fantastic yesterday. The offense and special teams constantly put them in holes and terrible situations and they only gave up one TD on a gadgety Tebow-ish play. I'll take it.

On top of that literally everything that could go wrong in a football game went wrong. ND had the ball inside the 5 yard line 3 times and came away with ZERO points. We lost by 3.

Riddick played maybe his worst game ever as a college player and I don't see him doing that week in and week out.

Is this team BCS capable? If we eliminate stupid mistakes, yes. We will be favored in pretty much every game they play this season, with the exception of MAYBE USC and for sure Stanford.

I'm not going to have a knee jerk reaction and say this team let me down. Yeah the loss sucks but there is a ton of season left and if this team finishes 11-1 or 10-2 or 9-3 all this shit will look stupid. It's one week and one game where a bunch of odd shit went on and stuff that I wouldn't count on happening week in and week out.

I think you mean when you recruit 3 star kids who get the customary Notre Dame star bump.

We've been over this before. It's BS. ESPN, Rivals, and Scouts don't do it. Lemming is a tool and I disregard anything he says

But here's the thing... they did turn it over 5 times! Shoot, Tommy Rees got picked off twice.

One pick was off a wide open WR's helmet. That's kinda flukey IMO and I don't put that on Rees. The second pick was a bad throw but when a team knows you are throwing the ball and dropping guys into coverage and you're throwing the ball 34 times in one half it's bound to happen.

Turnovers happen. You may want to defend them by saying ND gave the game away, but USF still had to pick those balls off and take advantage of them.

USF didn't really take full advantage of them though because of ND's defense. And that's part of the point.

The argument that one team didn't win, that the opponent simply beat themselves is among the worst in football and easily my least favorite.

Credit to USF for winning the game and holding on but ND helped give that game away in ways I don't see them doing on any sort of consistent basis for the rest of the season.

 

[Bear Pand]

But here's the thing... they did turn it over 5 times! Shoot, Tommy Rees got picked off twice.

Turnovers happen. You may want to defend them by saying ND gave the game away, but USF still had to pick those balls off and take advantage of them.

The argument that one team didn't win, that the opponent simply beat themselves is among the worst in football and easily my least favorite.

Truth.

Teams that lose the turnover battle typically loses the game so OFC if Notre Dame didn't turn it over 5 times they probably would have won.

Just empty arguments used to downplay the other team or take the sting off a loss.

 

[NAHSTE]

Credit to USF for winning the game and holding on but ND helped give that game away in ways I don't see them doing on any sort of consistent basis for the rest of the season.

I have heard this refrain for years now.