[PS3] Official PSN discussion thread

[Scikotic]

Anyone who didn't cancel their CC on file for PSN is a damn fool. I cancelled that shit the second I heard about the breach...

In other news, Im buying a 360. I'm starting to hate Sony...

 

[PP]

Anyone who didn't cancel their CC on file for PSN is a damn fool. I cancelled that shit the second I heard about the breach...

In other news, Im buying a 360. I'm starting to hate Sony...

So long.

 

[Scikotic]

So long.

I know you would miss me dearly, but I'm not getting rid of my PS3. It's got some good exclusives....

 

[dave]

I just read that PSN may not be up until May 31.

http://www.fastcompany.com/1752217/...boost-microsoft-in-skype-buying-game-rss-dyin

 

[KNUBB]

See what I'm saying? The fact that you're attempting to defend the large amounts of fail Sony has produced these last three weeks is what makes you a fanboy.

So because I'm not up in arms bout this and can logically think about the situation as a whole instead of consulting with my vagina like the rest of you I am automatically list as fanboy. A fanboy is someone who can't make a logical argument in favor of something. I can and have done that in this thread, but if me actually thinking about the situation and not getting all mad about it makes me a fanboy then guess what........ :dealwithit:

 

[PP]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...network-qriocity-service-by-end-of-month.html

3 more weeks?

I just read that PSN may not be up until May 31.

http://www.fastcompany.com/1752217/...boost-microsoft-in-skype-buying-game-rss-dyin

Glad you can read.

 

[Scikotic]

Glad you can read.

You try too hard to be a dick. You're not even very good at it...

 

[PP]

You try too hard to be a dick. You're not even very good at it...

i just ignore everything you say now that i see you are a new york fan.:teabag:

 

[padman59]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...network-qriocity-service-by-end-of-month.html

3 more weeks?

I just read that PSN may not be up until May 31.

http://www.fastcompany.com/1752217/...boost-microsoft-in-skype-buying-game-rss-dyin

These are based off Sony's press conference last weekend (check the date on PP's article) in which it was announced that PSN's services would be brought back incrementally and may not be fully operational until the end of the month. Dave's blurb is pure speculation based on Sony again delaying its initial launch over the weekend.

There hasn't been anything definitive published yet about no service being restored until the end of the month. Unfortunately, we will probably have to wait another day or two to get an official release as QuietStorm's source points out.

 

[Scikotic]

i just ignore everything you say now that i see you are a new york fan.:teabag:

If you don't like me I guess I must be doing something right. Either that or I must be black......

Glad I could add that extra cup of piss to your cornflakes this morning. Let me know if I could be of further assistance in the future.

:insert gay emoticon here:

 

[Colonel Angus]

Anyone know about any good xbox deals right now?

 

[MrBill]

Anyone know about any good xbox deals right now?

Check with some local independent gaming shops. I picked up a factory refurbished one from a local guy for $100 on Friday and he gives a 90 day warranty. Craigslist can be a good place to but be very careful of getting a patched together RRoD box.

 

[padman59]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1166810p1.html

Not speculation, possibly a rumor.

Semantics? Regardless of what you want to call it, there is no basis on anything new and official for people to jump to the conclusion that PSN won't be functional in any capacity until the end of the month.

Even the quote in the IGN article states that Sony plans on PSN being "fully" operational by the end of the month, which is the same thing that was announced last weekend.

 

[KNUBB]

You're not logically thinking, you're thinking of logical excuses as to why they haven't fixed this yet. Two weeks in a row they said that it would be up by the end of the week. Now it's going to be up by the end of this month. You continued to defend their actions by saying that "shit happens." Professionally speaking, Sony can't let "shit happen," or else, (as proven by their recent highest drop in stock percentage since 2009,) things go pretty wrong.

Surely you can be unaffected by the downtime, but "logically," there's no defending their lack of knowledge of the situation.

I'm one of the few that IS logically thinking in this thread. I am one of the few that understand how big a project it is to completely rebuild the network. It isn't a lack of knowledge at all on Sony's part. The Shit happens comment is regarding how things in IT and programming go. You may think you are close, but once you fix one problem another one arises. Sony never once gave a definitive launch date and only gave a hopeful date based on their progress.

 

[KNUBB]

You're neglecting the fact that Sony said PSN would be back up by the end of the week... Twice. That shows that their knowledge of the situation was not on par with where it needs to be.

We get it, you're not butthurt about it, but at least quit trying to defend it and bitching at people who are upset that their money isn't being put to use.

WHAT MONEY!!!!! The PSN is a free service and no one is putting money into said service. Any money spent was put into a GAME SYSTEM. Nothing else. In this case you aren't even rebutting my statements and simply holding onto your little argument which in this case makes you the fanboy/hater since you can't make a logical argument. You're pretty much just saying "I'm right and you're wrong" in so many words.

 

[Primetime]

People paid for the PS3 for the use of PSN though. You can't take that out of the question. That's like buying a TV and the satellite they promised would come with it goes out and your only able to watch basic cable.

 

[PP]

People paid for the PS3 for the use of PSN though. You can't take that out of the question. That's like buying a TV and the satellite they promised would come with it goes out and your only able to watch basic cable.

Except hackers compromised the network and Sony has to rebuild it which takes time and eventually PSN will be back up.

Let us try to use math to figure this out. If the PS3 is on a 10 year life cycle like Sony wants, you take 365(days in a year) X 10 (lifecycle) and divide it by the cost of the ps3 299. which comes into about 8 cents a day for 10 years for ps3. Obviously the numbers change a little bit depending on when you bought your console but this should put into perspective for the people talking about reimbursement and how they bought PS3 for PSN blah blah and it is included into the PS3 price. So if the ps3 is worth about 8 cents a day how much of that is the PSN price? If you use this math to factor in a month without PS3 ( meaning you dont play pS3 because psn is down) you should only be reimbursed 2.40$

disclaimer: I am terrible at math and did this quick but I think it kind of puts the value into perspective a little bit better for people no?

 

[MrBill]

WHAT MONEY!!!!! The PSN is a free service and no one is putting money into said service. Any money spent was put into a GAME SYSTEM. Nothing else.

You are right in that Sony doesn't charge you for PSN but I can tell you with a 99% level of confidence that Sony was not running PSN out of their profit margin. The costs for operating PSN are probably baked into the cost model for every PS3, game and accessory sold today. Nothing is free.

 

[Primetime]

Except hackers compromised the network and Sony has to rebuild it which takes time and eventually PSN will be back up.

What does that have to do with what I said?

Let us try to use math to figure this out. If the PS3 is on a 10 year life cycle like Sony wants, you take 365(days in a year) X 10 (lifecycle) and divide it by the cost of the ps3 299. which comes into about 8 cents a day for 10 years for ps3. Obviously the numbers change a little bit depending on when you bought your console but this should put into perspective for the people talking about reimbursement and how they bought PS3 for PSN blah blah and it is included into the PS3 price. So if the ps3 is worth about 8 cents a day how much of that is the PSN price? If you use this math to factor in a month without PS3 ( meaning you dont play pS3 because psn is down) you should only be reimbursed 2.40$

The value of PSN isn't monetary in this sense. People don't want to be reimbursed for it, they just want the product they paid for. Saying it isn't a big deal because you don't pay extra for the service is just very off-base. It's a big deal whether you've paid extra for it or not.

 

[KNUBB]

You are right in that Sony doesn't charge you for PSN but I can tell you with a 99% level of confidence that Sony was not running PSN out of their profit margin. The costs for operating PSN are probably baked into the cost model for every PS3, game and accessory sold today. Nothing is free.

Until about 2 years ago the PSN was relatively unknown and a joke. With Sony selling the PS3 at a loss I am pretty sure most of the operating costs is either coming from software or out of pocket.