Redskins Acquire 2nd pick in 2012 NFL Draft

[mcstl25]

My thoughts....

 

:bigbaby::allidoislin::jonesy::kg::saxual:

 

[killgod]

mcstl25 just pre ordered Madden 13.

 

[EmpireWF]

Good deal for both teams.

Skins get a potential franchise QB for 3 picks and in future drafts, just giving up a couple 1s.

Rams get a extra 2nd this year and two firsts the next couple years to build around Bradford.

Now the Giants need to keep Osi around and smash RGIII.

 

[jaxjaggywires]

So, Griffin costs three first round picks while Luck will, presumably, only cost one. Griffin better work out now...

 

[Virix]

Thank God the Browns didnt try to outbid Washington. They better take Blackmon.

 

[Tailback U]

Damn..I wonder what they offered the Colts for the number 1 pick if they gave up that much for the 2 spot.

How young are the Skins?

I don't think they are that young, right?

What could they possibly be thinking?

How do you expect a QB to grow if you can't build around him. Trading three first round picks and a second is absurd.

Obviously, they think that RGIII is going to step in right away and take this team to the playoffs, right?

 

[EmpireWF]

Obviously, they think that RGIII is going to step in right away and take this team to the playoffs, right?

Huh?

No redskins fan expects a playoff run next year with a rookie QB.

They've needed a franchise QB for a long ass time and now they have one.

 

[Rylo]

Jeff Fischer doing fucking work in St Louis :yep:

:clap:

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Right now, I am not a fan of the trade. If you look at it from one perspective, Mike Shanahan just sold away the rest of his first round picks for the duration of his contract for one player (in addition to a future 2nd rounder.) Granted, no one knows who the Rams will take with those picks, or how Griffin will pan out, but from a value perspective, I don't like this deal.

Peyton Manning was a long shot. This offensive scheme was not a fit for him, as the Shanahan's want a mobile quarterback. Their biggest bargaining chip was $40 million-plus in cap space so Manning could build his own offense. Plus you have no idea how he will be affected by the neck injury, or how much longer he plays.

Matt Flynn would come with a huge contract, and just as much risk. How along is his development? Can he succeed in a full-time role? Though his mobility would be a plus in the system.

I've wanted to see Kyle Orton in DC since the McNabb situation happened. Orton, while far from a scrambler, can still get out in the open (especially with the help of the Redskins mobile linemen) and excels at throwing the deep ball. That is what the Redskins want to do on offense, and for a team that is still some major holes away from contending, a fine option that involves little risk.

Don't get me wrong, it is something for us Redskins fans to be excited about, but I've drank that kool-aid before with all of the off-season Super Bowls we've won. The only thing that keeps me optimistic is that Bruce Allen has drafted very well for this team, and I think he can succeed without first-rounders to work with.

That, and we finally have someone to invest in as a "franchise" QB. No more Grossman. No more Patrick Ramsey. No more Gus Frerotte. No more "over the hill" guys like McNabb and Brunell. Someone who can grow in this system. Lets just hope the gamble pays off.

The Redskins still need to upgrade the line- Carl Nicks or Ben Grubbs should be at the top of their list, along with a possible replacement for Jammal Brown at RT. Next would be a strong #1 receiver, and both Vincent Jackson and Marques Colston fit the bill. Follow that up with the secondary, as we will need to replace LaRon Landry (and possibly OJ Otogwe) as well as beef up the corners. This is still a team that is a long way from contending, but they can come a long way this off-season.

 

[~Chance~]

"With this trade, we're gonna turn this team around 360 degrees."

-Dan Sydner.

 

[dave]

It's an incredibly steep price, but if Griffin turns into a top-5 quarterback in the NFL ... it was a price worth paying.
I'm not saying he will become a top-5 QB, but if he does, the price will be forgotten five years from now.
Frankly, if I were Cleveland, I'd use the 4 and 22 on the right players ... and just let Tannehill go by. The Browns could do worse than giving Colt McCoy one more year and using those high value picks on other needs.

Griffin is a AAA character guy and can disguise an average O-Line with his speed.

 

[EmpireWF]

It's an incredibly steep price, but if Griffin turns into a top-5 quarterback in the NFL ... it was a price worth paying.
I'm not saying he will become a top-5 QB, but if he does, the price will be forgotten five years from now.
Frankly, if I were Cleveland, I'd use the 4 and 22 on the right players ... and just let Tannehill go by. The Browns could do worse than giving Colt McCoy one more year and using those high value picks on other needs.

Griffin is a AAA character guy and can disguise an average O-Line with his speed.

Forget top 5.

If he's a top 10 QB, it's still a good trade. Hell, if he's a top 15 Qb, it's still a decent trade as long as the Redskins are contenders in the division within 2-3 seasons.

 

[dave]

Forget top 5.

If he's a top 10 QB, it's still a good trade. Hell, if he's a top 15 Qb, it's still a decent trade as long as the Redskins are contenders in the division within 2-3 seasons.

You don't give up all those picks and use a #2 on a quarterback you hope will be a top-15 QB.
As for top-10 thing - do you give up 3 number ones and a 2 for Tony Romo?

 

[dope]

as a vikings fan i'm very right now

 

[EmpireWF]

You don't give up all those picks and use a #2 on a quarterback you hope will be a top-15 QB.
As for top-10 thing - do you give up 3 number ones and a 2 for Tony Romo?

First off, they're not really giving up 3 #1s. Technically sure, but that includes the swap of 1s this season. They're giving up 2 future 1s and a 2nd this year.

My whole thing is, if he's the franchise QB, you don't bat an eye at giving up those 3 picks. Theoretically, he's at the very least a stabilizing force behind center for the next 10 years. They get to the playoffs 3 or 4 times, maybe even win the division once or twice.

On the other end of the spectrum, this is the beginning of the Redskins becoming a force for the next decade and serious threats in the playoffs. I hope not, but getting a franchise QB is the first step.

Of course, he could end up like Leaf....

 

[dave]

I don't see Griffin becoming Leaf because Griffin is a high-quality human being who will work his ass off to make the Redskins look good.
This is an educated, dedicated man who has never failed.
Does that mean he will be a franchise NFL QB? Not sure. But I am sure he won't be Ryan Leaf.

 

[EmpireWF]

Also remember that I'm looking at this from the perspective of a Giants fan. In 2004, the Giants dealt that years 1st and 3rd round picks plus 2005s 1st and 5th rounders to move up 3 spots and take Eli Manning. At the time, there were fans who said it was too much, but our GM at the time Ernie Accorsi was of the philosophy that if you are in the position to get a franchise QB, you must get him.

Same principle here.

 

[dave]

Also remember that I'm looking at this from the perspective of a Giants fan. In 2004, the Giants dealt that years 1st and 3rd round picks plus 2005s 1st and 5th rounders to move up 3 spots and take Eli Manning. At the time, there were fans who said it was too much, but our GM at the time Ernie Accorsi was of the philosophy that if you are in the position to get a franchise QB, you must get him.

Same principle here.

I always thought Eli Manning was just living off his name ... until 2007.
Once he got the ring, he got my respect.
Then the bastard got his second ring.
Kinda hard to disrespect Eli Manning.

In fairness to San Diego, that trade worked out for both teams. Philip Rivers doesn't have a Super Bowl ring, but he's clearly an elite QB ... and the Chargers did ok in that trade.

 

[KNUBB]

Get the wedding dress ready

 

 

[Realist]

As a rival fan of the Rams, i hate the deal. Rams will have 2 firsts the next 3 years :cano: