Sean Payton Suspended 1 Year, Saints Lose Pair of 2nd Round Picks

[RosettaStoned]

BRB gonna go watch NFL games where when player is laying motionless on ground other team rather than praying is jumping around and making it rain on the player who made the hit.

Make GIF please.

 

[Tailback U]

BRB gonna go watch NFL games where when player is laying motionless on ground other team rather than praying is jumping around and making it rain on the player who made the hit.

I posted several videos in the bounty thread that showed players celebrating while a guy lays on the field out cold.

Houston tried to tell me that people don't like watching guys get hurt, the video I posted had 13 million views. It was Junior Rosegreen if Auburn knocking Reggie Brown out cold and then stomping around afterward like a lion that just killed his pray while his entire sideline celebrates.

I'm sure after all that they took a knee and prayed though! L O L

Stick to running marathons and non contact sports because you obviously have no fucking clue about how violent football is or what type if athlete the sport breeds.

 

[FirstTimer]

I'm sure after all that they took a knee and prayed though!

Yeah because we have NEVER seen that!

I don't think anyone said big hits weren't a part of football or didn;t occur but when you basically start a program that makes people head hunt for them and make the game more dangerous than it has to be...it becomes and issue and turns into bounties for oh I don't know..."cart offs" and "injuries"

Your brain has been scrambled or you've been posting drunk for weeks. I hope it's the latter.

Stick to running marathons and non contact sports because you obviously have no fucking clue about how violent football is or what type if athlete the sport breeds.

I played football in HS derp derp. Quit playing bc of various knee/ankle injuries that came from playing basketball as well.



Nice try.

 

[Tailback U]

So you're seriously going to think that players weren't motivated to injure specific players because of the bounties?

As equally retarded..as usual for you.

You seriously don't think players were more motivated to make "big hits" when there was money attached to them? If they weren't more motivated because of the bounty there would be no reason to have the bounty to begin with..b/c the bounty would serve no purpose. The bounties obviously served a purpose and worked if the entire Saints team not only bought into it...but tried to hide it. If there is nothing "wrong" about a bounty program and it doesn't serve to add any real motivation the Saints or a player would come out and say it be like "no big fucking deal"...but that's not happening because players know it works, know it influences them, and know why it's illegal.

I seriously think money has little to no effect on big hits. On intent to injure, that is a different story and not what you said here.

Glory > money. These guys have plenty of money. They want to make big hits to change the pace of the game, to get their teammates and the crowd fired up, to be on Sportscenter later that night.

You really think that when the ball is in the air a player is thinking about the incentive tied to the play he can make? You really think they have time to think or even remember about that?

 

[FirstTimer]

I seriously think money has little to no effect on big hits.

The players and coaches in an NFL locker room obviously disagree because they had the program to reward specifically for them.



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You really think that when the ball is in the air a player is thinking about the incentive tied to the play he can make? You really think they gave time to think or even remember about that?

Yes, because when the ball is in the air now due to a lot of the rules you can see players pulling off from killshots that happened prior to the new rules about player safety being instituted. Players say it influences the way they play the game. Same holds true for bounties.

Please STFU.

 

[Cornelius]

I can't believe it's such a difficult concept to grasp. I also can't believe the Saints needed a bounty program for their defense to want to hurt people. I'm with Tailback U, I've played in games both in rugby and football with and against dudes who wanted to hurt people and they were completely meaningless games. You put money, pride, and a championship in the mix and this doesn't shock me at all.

For all of you shocked and appalled at the nature of men in the NFL who want to hurt people when they step on the field, you've probably never seen aggression carried out in a way that shocked you. I remember the first rugby practice I attended, it was an indoor conditioning practice. All of a sudden the passing game we were playing turned into hardcore rucking and mauling. Guys turned into animals and were going full bore on a hard gym floor. That was a holy fuck moment for me. I then realized there were people in the world who could turn off normal rationalization and just become something else. To a point, I had that ability too. The reason I say that is that I think the NFL is full of guys like this. That they need a bounty program to become this way seems ridiculous.

 

[Tailback U]

I can't believe it's such a difficult concept to grasp. I also can't believe the Saints needed a bounty program for their defense to want to hurt people. I'm with Tailback U, I've played in games both in rugby and football with and against dudes who wanted to hurt people and they were completely meaningless games. You put money, pride, and a championship in the mix and this doesn't shock me at all.

For all of you shocked and appalled at the nature of men in the NFL who want to hurt people when they step on the field, you've probably never seen aggression carried out in a way that shocked you. I remember the first rugby practice I attended, it was an indoor conditioning practice. All of a sudden the passing game we were playing turned into hardcore rucking and mauling. Guys turned into animals and were going full bore on a hard gym floor. That was a holy fuck moment for me. I then realized there were people in the world who could turn off normal rationalization and just become something else. To a point, I had that ability too. The reason I say that is that I think the NFL is full of guys like this. That they need a bounty program to become this way seems ridiculous.

It's really funny how some of these guys are arguing with us about the mentality that a lot of players have.

The fact that 22-27 Saints players took part in the bounty program and that dozens of former and current players have come out and said that thus shit happens all the time since the beginning if time tells you everything you need to know about the mental capacity of these guys! Think about it.

 

[Cornelius]

I played football in HS derp derp.

I call bullshit. You sound like one of those kids who played a day and said they played football.

 

[FirstTimer]

I call bullshit. You sound like one of those kids who played a day and said they played football.

Fresh-Jr year.

Severely injured my ankle Jr year basketball. Gave up football to start running distance. Stuck with basketball for one more season in my senior year as I had been playing it longer.

 

[Aso]

So is TBU ever gonna tell us where he played his college ball?

 

[FirstTimer]

So is TBU ever gonna tell us where he played his college ball?

He already did.

 

[Cornelius]

Fresh-Jr year.

Severely injured my ankle Jr year basketball. Gave up football to start running distance. Stuck with basketball for one more season in my senior year as I had been playing it longer.

Ah, you quit to run. Your stance in this thread makes sense now. Senior year of football was the best year. Congrats on making it three shitty years only to quit to run.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Ah, you quit to run. Your stance in this thread makes sense now. Senior year of football was the best year. Congrats on making it three shitty years only to quit to run.

Only if you weren't good enough to play freshman through Junior year. My Junior year was my favorite, and my best season.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Obviously the players logic is whats flawed.

The bounties were also for big hits. So are you seriously going to make the case that players wouldnt be motivated to make big hits if it wasnt for the measly bounties? That would be incredibly retarded.

The Saints also had specific language laid out in these bounties that specified cash pay outs for "cart offs". If you don't have a problem with that, then you are sub human.

And again, yes, I think players are extra motivated to play differently when bounties are on the table. OTHERWISE BOUNTIES WOULD NOT EXIST. Are you seriously this dense?

Here's another analogy you won't understand, since you think NFL players are trained killers trying to kill each other anyway. Companies give out sales bonuses to employees to add extra motivation to increase sales. Of course, these employees are already trying to make sales, very hard in fact, but the bonus system gives them extra incentive to try harder.

In the case of the Saints, you have coaches giving players money to try harder to injure people. TO TRY HARDER TO INJURE PEOPLE. CART OFFS. How is this not registering with you? Of course liberties will be taken if money is on the table. It doesnt matter if the hits are clean, dirty, flagged, unflagged. Do you really not see the morality, sociological, and decency issues here? Drop this macho act of NFL FOOTBALL TOUGH GUY RAWR for a second.

It doesnt even matter if a single player on the Saints even went the extra mile to attempt to injure somebody, although anybody with a functioning brain who has a semblance of common sense knows that they did. Once a bounty is in place, that's it, you lose all benefit of the doubt, and it has to be assumed that they were blood hunting.

Of course, this is how it played out in your mind:

Vilma: "Here is $10 grand to take out Favre. Must be cart off. Injure that honky."

Player: "Hey that's cool! Since i'm sub human and actively trying to injure people every snap, i'll take that money if the injury happens completely organically and within the rules with a nice clean hit! I won't try any harder to injure the man, because as you know, i'm already trying my hardest to hurt people!"

Player #2: "Hmm, I dont know Jonathon. $10,000 isnt very much money. Didn't you know that we are all millionaires? Every. One. Of. Us. Plus, ROger Goodell will fine me more than $10k if my hit is dirty. Sorry friend, this simply does not motivate me."

Vilma & Gregg Williams: "Looks like bounties don't work. These trained assassins just aren't buying it. LETS KEEP OFFERING THEM FOR THREE MORE YEARS AND IGNORE THE LEAGUE WHEN THEY TELL US TO STOP, EVEN THOUGH THEY DONT WORK."

 

[RosettaStoned]

Of course, this is how it played out in your mind:

Vilma: "Here is $10 grand to take out Favre. Must be cart off. Injure that honky."

Player: "Hey that's cool! Since i'm sub human and actively trying to injure people every snap, i'll take that money if the injury happens completely organically and within the rules with a nice clean hit! I won't try any harder to injure the man, because as you know, i'm already trying my hardest to hurt people!"

Player #2: "Hmm, I dont know Jonathon. $10,000 isnt very much money. Didn't you know that we are all millionaires? Every. One. Of. Us. Plus, ROger Goodell will fine me more than $10k if my hit is dirty. Sorry friend, this simply does not motivate me."

Vilma & Gregg Williams: "Looks like bounties don't work. These trained assassins just aren't buying it. LETS KEEP OFFERING THEM FOR THREE MORE YEARS AND IGNORE THE LEAGUE WHEN THEY TELL US TO STOP, EVEN THOUGH THEY DONT WORK."

/thread.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Why don't those of you who think the bounties are overblown, just admit that you enjoy violence, think the bounties are cool, and move on?

It's a better stance than claiming the bounties have no effect on play, which makes you look completely retarded.

 

[Cornelius]

Only if you weren't good enough to play freshman through Junior year. My Junior year was my favorite, and my best season.

I played those years, but freshman and jv are pretty pointless years. Junior year, most of the Seniors were douchebags, so Senior year was most fun to me. I suppose it's subjective. Also probably depends on how good your team was any given year.

 

[Cornelius]

Why don't those of you who think the bounties are overblown, just admit that you enjoy violence, think the bounties are cool, and move on?

It's a better stance than claiming the bounties have no effect on play, which makes you look completely retarded.

Way to sum up that you totally don't understand anyone's point on the other side.

Football isn't violent?

And there are not non-bountied players on every team who aren't trying to injure someone every game?

You are retarded if you can't grasp that.

 

[Tailback U]

Why don't those of you who think the bounties are overblown, just admit that you enjoy violence, think the bounties are cool, and move on?

It's a better stance than claiming the bounties have no effect on play, which makes you look completely retarded.

I enjoy violence but I don't think bounties are cool, where does that leave me?

Why do you think it is that we didn't even know the bounty program was going on until 3 years after it started?

If it has such an effect on players and the game, how come no fans even knew about it or would have known about it if the Saints never left a paper trail?

Think about it. We would have never even known. So how can you say that it changes the game or the way players play?

 

[RosettaStoned]

I played those years, but freshman and jv are pretty pointless years. Junior year, most of the Seniors were douchebags, so Senior year was most fun to me. I suppose it's subjective. Also probably depends on how good your team was any given year.

I started varisty all 4 years, and made the playoffs all 4 years.