UFC 142: Aldo vs. Mendes (1/14 on PPV)

[EmpireWF]

Johnson is a moron.

 

[Sharkweather]

Rumble weighed in at 197. If he doesn't stay below 205 tomorrow the bout will not take place.

Gain 8 pounds in a day? What the hell is he eating tonight?

 

[Point Blank]

VITOR!

 

[clovett]

lol at Rumble. Dude moves up to 185 and still has trouble making weight. This card will be lucky to get 125,000 buys.

 

[clovett]

However, opponent Vitor Belfort agreed to continue with the bout if Johnson is not over 205 pounds before he enters the cage Saturday. Johnson weighed in at 197, 11 pounds over the 186-pound limit and will forfeit 20% of his fight purse. As of a conference call just over a week ago, Johnson said he was 218 pounds.

 

[Liquidrob]

LMAO @ not making 185 after having trouble making weight at WW

This dude is the worst weight cutter ever, plus, after cutting to only get to 197 (if he even tried), it's going to be hell to not get back over 205, bascially he wont get to eat or drink much, he lost all his size advantage that he was trying to have

VITOR WE DID IT MAMA

 

[Bigpapa42]

Jesus fucking Christ, does Johnson not give a shit at all? Does he even try to make weight? So disrespectful to your opponent to constantly do that.

 

[Maestro]

Gain 8 pounds in a day? What the hell is he eating tonight?

He's not eating anything. He can't gain 9lbs otherwise the fight is over.

 

[Bigpapa42]

He's gonna have to be careful rehydrating even. If he did cut down and still weighed that much, he can put 5-7 pounds back on with water pretty easy. He dun fucked up.

 

[clovett]

This fight will not happen.

 

[SHOGUN]

What a piece of shit.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

HOW THE FUCK are you still 218lbs A WEEK AWAY FROM THE FIGHT? I know these guys do most of their cutting close to fight day my MY GOD that is unacceptable. I love Rumble, but he does this shit every fucking fight. IMO its come to where there has to be a threat of him being cut for doing it again, this shit is a joke.

 

[Liquidrob]

this whole story is weird

So the latest now is Johnson was giving fluids by a UFC doctor because he didnt have feeling his legs and couldnt move, so he was cutting, got down to 187 or something, the doc stepped in and than went back up to 197

ok fine, than why is a guy who wasnt able to cut, had no feeling in his legs and couldnt move fighting the next day?

Johnsons camp

Robinson says that Johnson started feeling sick and unstable, and so a local doctor came in to check him out to see what exactly was going on.

The doctor gave Johnson fluids to see if it would improve his condition, and within a couple of hours, the Blackzilian fighter started to come back to life. Unfortunately, at this point it was too late to cut the weight back down to 186lbs.

"It was medical reasons, it wasn't for lack of effort," Robinson said. "The UFC was extremely supportive and said health comes first."

AJ on FB aftewards

I'm already laughing at what ppl are saying. Yeah it was for medical reason and I did what the UFC Dr Told me to do. Believe it or don't I give a f**k cuz the ppl close to me were freaking out but I'm still alive and something like this has never happen before. Say what you want I'm still gonna do my thang. You try not having feeling in your legs and can't move then and see how you look at life after that

If all this is true, AJ has F'd his body up from all these extreme wight cuts, plus you have 'UFC doctors' stepping in and still allowing a guy to fight the next day who couldnt feel his legs or move, wacky stuff

 

[SHOGUN]

If he couldn't move his legs, the fight should have been called off.

 

[Liquidrob]

So AJ 'was able to make weight today' if you want to call it that, weighed in at 204.2, the fight is on, what a clusterfuck

If they knew earlier AJ couldn't make weight, they should have let Vitor know so he didn't have to cut to the weight limit

Obviously pressure on Vitor himself and from the UFC for the biggest star on the brazilian card to fight

 

[Liquidrob]

stuff like this is why weight cutting can be so lame, they need stricter rules, I know wrestling has been doing it for years, but crazy weight cuts are very very dangerous

throw in strikes and it get crazy, boxers on average do not do this massive weight cuts, they cut of course, but not to some of these extreme levels in MMA/wrestling, if you need an IV after getting on the scale, something is wrong

they need to put in limits for the next day, some type of percentage, next day weight or something, I have never been a fan of this stuff, it's part of thr sport and I get it, just dont support it

Also, they leave this stuff up to the fighters to accept the fight, no fighter after months and months of training is going to turn a fight down, it just wont happen, a guy like Vitor fighting in his home country would never turn it down

more guys not fighting, not getting paid will make guys not go for these extreme cuts they can only make half of the time

sidenote: ESPN needs to tackle this next

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Boxers have weight more weight divisions to begin with though.

Instead of closer shouldn't weigh ins take place like a Monday before ? Is water weight that huge of an advantage ? ex. how much will each fighter end up actually weighing minutes before the fight ?

Guys really shouldnt be fighting X amount of lbs under there normal walking around weight but not sure how you enforce that. Maybe multiple weigh ins ?

 

[Liquidrob]

Yes, water weight is a big advantage, because basically you're sucking out every last bit your body can and than put it right back in, it is a science, a trick

So you got a guy like AJ, he is 'walking around' in the 220 lbs range while training, maybe more, terms like 'walking around' weight vary, but lets just use something like that, he can be as high as 230 or more when not fighting

Than you have other guys who are walking around 200 for getting ready to cut to MW at 185, these guys are much smaller than someone like AJ, but I dont want to single him out, a lot of guys are huge, but he is trying to take it a step futher, It's just more of a lack of discipline for him than others, others make weight pretty easily

That 'water weight' can give some guys 10 or more lbs on the other guy, it was more noticable in the older days where guys like Tito used it as a major advantage, he woul come in around 225-230 lbs for a fight where he weighed 199 lbs at the weigh in

Frank weighed in at 197 I believe with clothes on and stuff in his pockets, he had 30 lbs on Frank, than fights afterward you can see the size difference between him and guys like Tanner and whoever else

The reason these guys are doing it and almost killing themselves is because its a major advanatage, thats why the foreign fighters do no fare well in the US, they are just not big enough

BUT, some guys it hurts because they don't do it 'the right way' or there body shouldnt be doing it, THE REEM at 205, AJ and others who always gas or just cant make it, Diaz was another one who did not perform as well at 155 as he does at 170

 

[Liquidrob]

to answer your question, Vitor will be over 205, I believe he was close to 205 just a couple hours after the weigh ins, probably close to 210 fight time, AJ who knows, he had to dehydrate, rehydrate than rehydrate only a little to make weight the next day than will put on more, he will be 215 probably

I wish they showed 'in ring weights' like boxing does

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

to answer your question, Vitor will be over 205, I believe he was close to 205 just a couple hours after the weigh ins, probably close to 210 fight time, AJ who knows, he had to dehydrate, rehydrate than rehydrate only a little to make weight the next day than will put on more, he will be 215 probably

I wish they showed 'in ring weights' like boxing does

Would love that.



Interesting.... what would effect would multiple weigh ins leading up to the fight have ? ((ex you have to be within 10 lbs of weight 10 days out.))Would that keep guys like AJ within the realm of the necessary weight ?