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VICK RELEASED

Firsttimer said:
Hell they couldn't even fully run the offense under Vick b/c the coaches didn't even trust him enough to give him the ability to audible/change playcalls.
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I still believe your entirely to hard on Vick...

Guys like sage rosenfels, kyle orton, ect have jobs in the NFL I think Vick can come back and... I bet if he took the lions to a 10-6 record or brought any team to the playoffs that hasnt been to the playoffs in 5-6 years they would be happy to have...
 
Peppers90 said:
I still believe your entirely to hard on Vick...
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Ha! I'm too hard on an underachieving overpaid average QB that people defend to no end and literally make up stats to defend. ie... The Falcons ran the ball under Vick than they did last year.....False.



Peppers90 said:
Guys like sage rosenfels, kyle orton, ect have jobs in the NFL I think Vick can come back and... I bet if he took the lions to a 10-6 record or brought any team to the playoffs that hasnt been to the playoffs in 5-6 years they would be happy to have...
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VICK HASN'T BEEN TO THE PLAYOFFS IN 4 YEARS!

Vick went to the Playoffs twice in his career and hasn't gone since 2004. He didn't take the Falcons there in 2005 and 2006 and now with at least two years off people are somehow thinking Vick will be able to come back and be a legit QB in the NFL, when he was barely one before. Vick could barely complete 50% of his passes before he went to prison. Let alone after 2 years away from the game.

I also like that for both your examples you listed QB's who didn't make the playoffs last year and who are either a. career backups/journey men or b. game mangers. Since when is Vick a game manager? I thought his strength was making plays...........

Apples and oranges.
 
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Juggernaut said:
such as...
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Jon Kitna - 1999 Seahawks

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Trent Dilfer - 2000 Ravens

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Daunte Culpepper (really, all Randy Moss and Cris Carter) - 2000 Vikings

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Tommy Maddox (although his play that year was phenomenal) - 2002 Steelers

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Kelly Holcomb (No, not Brady Quinn) - 2002 Browns

Need I go on?
 
The Messenger said:
Let's hope you aren't seriously asking that question.
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deviantthoughts said:
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Jon Kitna - 1999 Seahawks

trent-dilfer.jpg

Trent Dilfer - 2000 Ravens

daunte-culpepper.jpg

Daunte Culpepper (really, all Randy Moss and Cris Carter) - 2000 Vikings

maddox1.jpg

Tommy Maddox (although his play that year was phenomenal) - 2002 Steelers

NFLF-Kelly_Holcomb_111603.jpg

Kelly Holcomb (No, not Brady Quinn) - 2002 Browns

Need I go on?
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It wasnt a serious question, hence it being my first in this thread. Vick was an above average player, he put fans in the seats and had an explosive game that attracted media attention, sorta like a tebow type player
 
deviantthoughts said:
244642.jpg

Jon Kitna - 1999 Seahawks

trent-dilfer.jpg

Trent Dilfer - 2000 Ravens

daunte-culpepper.jpg

Daunte Culpepper (really, all Randy Moss and Cris Carter) - 2000 Vikings

maddox1.jpg

Tommy Maddox (although his play that year was phenomenal) - 2002 Steelers

NFLF-Kelly_Holcomb_111603.jpg

Kelly Holcomb (No, not Brady Quinn) - 2002 Browns

Need I go on?
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Well let's just look at the Bears alone in the last 25 years here are the QB's that took them to the playoffs:
Jim McMahon*
Mike Tomczak
Jim Harbaugh
Steve Walsh
Jim Miller
Kyle Orton/Rex Grossman
Rex Grossman*

*Super Bowl appearence.
 
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