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Hide Yo Kids. Paterno/Sandusky Trial/Penn State Megathread

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- One of the puzzling questions in the ever-evolving Penn State sexual abuse scandal is why trustees removed Joe Paterno as head coach late Wednesday but, for the time being, assistant coach Mike McQueary is still employed.



Penn State officials announced late Thursday that McQueary would not be at Saturday's game against Nebraska because of "multiple threats" made against him. On Friday, he was placed on administrative leave.



How is McQueary hanging on? One theory is that the Penn State receivers coach and recruiting coordinator may hold whistle-blower protection status under Pennsylvania state law. McQueary was a 28-year-old graduate assistant in 2002 when, according to his grand jury testimony, he witnessed Jerry Sandusky committing sexual assault on a young boy in the showers of the Lasch Football Building. Horrified, McQueary said he left the building, called his father and the next day told Paterno what he saw.





McQueary, a former Penn State quarterback, has faced immense criticism this week for not calling police, interrupting the act or, in the nine years since he was an eyewitness, demanding answers about why Sandusky was never charged. But Stephen Kohn, the executive director of the National Whistleblowers Center in Washington, D.C., believes reporting the incident to Paterno alone could be enough to protect McQueary under the state's whistle-blower law.



"If they were to fire him because he made the disclosure and reported it, then he would be protected," Kohn said. "Just because he's unpopular, just because people blame him for having the head coach dismissed, he can't be fired for any of that."


That might help explain why Paterno spent Thursday on a couch in his home and McQueary was still at the practice facility helping players prepare for Nebraska. As Kohn explained it, even though McQueary was the actual witness, the level of reporting responsibility for a then-28-year-old graduate assistant and a legendary head coach is far different.



"You have to look at where the employee is on the totem pole," Kohn said. "There are different expectations at different levels. A manager versus an employee. A student versus a teacher. It's just how it goes. The last thing you want to do is create an environment where people don't even tell the supervisor."



According to the Ethics Resource Center, six in 10 employees who viewed misconduct reported it in 2010. Seventy-five percent of those told their direct manager or another supervisor. Ellen Dannin, a Penn State law professor who specializes in labor and employment law, was unsure whether McQueary would be protected as a whistle-blower but agreed that he would be held to a different standard than Paterno, even though he witnessed the act.



"Joe Paterno, 10-11 years ago, was an incredibly powerful guy," Dannin said. "What would have happened to him if he would have taken it further? If he would have insisted on answers? Nothing. It would have been resolved. What did [Paterno] have to lose versus what did [McQueary] have to lose? There's no comparison. [Paterno] could have safely ended this."



Of course, there are those who will say that McQueary could have ended it as well, by stopping Sandusky in the act or by calling the police, either anonymously or not. But at this point, it isn't believed that that happened.



"If [McQueary] is a low-level person, you can understand why he might be stunned in that moment," she said. "And people don't act their best when they're taken by surprise."



Charges were not filed against Sandusky then. And in 2004, McQueary was promoted to receivers coach. Not until 2009 did a grand jury begin its investigation of Sandusky.



"In time, the misconduct metamorphasized from the child abuse and rape to the failure of management to disclose and correct," Kohn said of the allegations against Sandusky. "Then the question becomes: Should he have blown the whistle on the head coach for not taking action?



"Anyone who had responsibility was under a duty to take corrective action. They can't sit on it. If you sit on it, you're part of a cover-up. And then everything changes."
 
A quote from Penn State BOT just now: "There are other complications" with McQueary's employment.

Methinks he can blow the entire lid on this and they need to keep him close.

Hopefully that's the case. There needs to be a method to the madness, because it looks real bad right now that they are still paying people like Curley.
 
The fact that Curley and McQueary are on admin. leave and are still being paid is ridiculous. The fact that Schultz was allowed to return to retirement and collect his benefits is just as asinine.

They're also paying for Curley's and Schultz's defense team...how on earth do they think that's a good idea?
 
Hopefully that's the case. There needs to be a method to the madness, because it looks real bad right now that they are still paying people like Curley.

I agree that it's curious that Paterno's judgment was swift while these other guys still dangle on the vine. But we still have no idea what further information there is. I thought they'd all get dealt with promptly but I guess we'll have to see what these "complexities" are.
 
Not true at all.

There have been seriel killers, seriel rapists, serial sex abusers who lead double lives and the wives never know.

The witch hunt is getting out of hand no wif people are jumping on the "ZOMG this person whose name has never been brought up clearly knew!"

Let's just stick with what we know.

I would think seriel killers, seriel rapists, and seriel sex abusers that want to lead a double life to keep it from the family wouldn't be taking the victims home and commit these sordid acts in their basement.

I'd like to hear what she has to say and I'll leave it at that.
 
I agree that it's curious that Paterno's judgment was swift while these other guys still dangle on the vine. But we still have no idea what further information there is. I thought they'd all get dealt with promptly but I guess we'll have to see what these "complexities" are.

Maybe Paterno told all of these guys to STFU unless they wanted to end up in the river with the DA.

I'm only half joking.
 
I would think seriel killers, seriel rapists, and seriel sex abusers that want to lead a double life to keep it from the family wouldn't be taking the victims home and commit these sordid acts in their basement.

Look up the case of the Canadian General who was a panty stealing murdered. Dude brought all sorts of shit home.

Plus do we know Sandusky brought the kids around when the wife was home?All Jerry has to tell the wife is"have late film study going to PSU" Then goes and buttfucks a kid.
 
Look up the case of the Canadian General who was a panty stealing murdered. Dude brought all sorts of shit home.

Plus do we know Sandusky brought the kids around when the wife was home?All Jerry has to tell the wife is"have late film study going to PSU" Then goes and buttfucks a kid.

True. Plus if they already have adopted 6 kids and she knows he runs a charitable organization for kids she's probably just used to him always welcoming children in his home. What is she going to do, turn them away? The victim who made the trip to the Alamo Bowl was listed under the Sandusky family when travel arrangements were made. Considering they had adopted such a large number maybe they had a very flexible definition of family, and she really thought her husband was helping these kids.

I don't think the wife would be all that alarmed considering this guy's supposed passion in life was working with kids and sheltering at risk youth. Obviously he was mangling that passion for evil but that doesn't necessarily mean she knew that.
 
Look up the case of the Canadian General who was a panty stealing murdered. Dude brought all sorts of shit home.

Ok, but he wasn't bringing anyone home and killing them. Plus I'm suprised a Canadian would have time to be a panty stealing muderer..you know, with all the cat fucking that goes on up there :D

Plus do we know Sandusky brought the kids around when the wife was home?All Jerry has to tell the wife is"have late film study going to PSU" Then goes and buttfucks a kid.

You're right, we don't know that. But I find it odd that after all these allegations were put out there she will still be seen in public with him. Per one of the articles I read, she was seen with him working out at a gym in his hometown.

Its just weird to me, thats all..
 
I read somewhere that McQueary would be unlikely to cooperate in the investigation if he was fired. Talk about a scumbag.

At this point, he's probably looking out for himself since there's some chance (don't know how much of a chance) he could end up being charged with something.

Hence why Paterno is looking at getting an attorney.
 
Paterno keeps looking worse and worse.

Reports on MSNBC are now saying Sandusky was still actively recruiting for PSU as recently as this past spring.
 
Paterno keeps looking worse and worse.

Reports on MSNBC are now saying Sandusky was still actively recruiting for PSU as recently as this past spring.

Been debunked, a recruit completely made that up.

This is an actual weird development though: McQueary no longer on staff, claims to be in protective custody.
 
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