MMA Thread

[Bigpapa42]

Bob Sapp reminds me of one more way in which MMA is similar to pro wrestling... Professional jobbers aka cans.

 

[Ralnakor]

Anyone got the video of the Sapp/Lashley fight?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I think Rob's point is that guys like Angle were wrestlers before becoming Pro Wrestlers. It appears that he is under the impression that you think guys like Jericho or someone with no wrestling background could also make the transition due to their 'athletic' ability

I think Rob is talking out of his ass, bcus I never claimed that John Cena or any other wrestler for that matter could beat MMAers in an MMA match, or in a street fight for that matter. Rob is just on my nuts as usual.

Get off my dick Rob.. its too big to fit in your ass with your head lodged so far up there.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Anyone got the video of the Sapp/Lashley fight?

http://www.mmascraps.com/

lashley just laid a beatdown. no reason to try and stand with sapp

 

[Liquidrob]

I think Rob is talking out of his ass, bcus I never claimed that John Cena or any other wrestler for that matter could beat MMAers in an MMA match, or in a street fight for that matter. Rob is just on my nuts as usual.

Get off my dick Rob.. its too big to fit in your ass with your head lodged so far up there.

lol @ this post, the last resort of a man with no other options

you know what you have said in the past, don't deny it, so you made this post earlier

I may have said in the past that some wrestlers could venture into MMA

lol @ 'may have', you either have or you havent, clearly you have in the past and than you say 'how does that translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers', well whats the point of saying that if you dont think they wouldn't do well? Who would this pro wrestlers be fighting, other pro wrestlers? lol

Dont change your past and play dumb now, nothing worse than a pro wrestling fan watching MMA for maybe 2 years and than trying to pass himself off as an expert

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

lol @ this post, the last resort of a man with no other options

you know what you have said in the past, don't deny it, so you made this post earlier



lol @ 'may have', you either have or you havent, clearly you have in the past and than you say 'how does that translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers', well whats the point of saying that if you dont think they wouldn't do well? Who would this pro wrestlers be fighting, other pro wrestlers? lol

Dont change your past and play dumb now, nothing worse than a pro wrestling fan watching MMA for maybe 2 years and than trying to pass himself off as an expert

Again.. how does me saying some wrestlers could venture into MMA translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers. More specifically.. when did I say John Cena could get into MMA? And even if I believed he could (which I dont), where do I say he could be successful? A lot of guys can venture into another sport and not succeed dummy. You're trying to spin it like im on wrestlings jock and that they're > MMAers, and thats simply not what I have ever said. And for you to claim that I have is you talking out of your ass, which you do a lot of anyways, so thats ok.

Theres nothing to change Rob, you're trying to change it for me. Why dont you come with some proof instead of coming with blatant bullshit lies?

And the only person who tries to come off as an expert in this thread is you, you think just bcus you've competed you're the fucking MMA guru, you're not. Ive continuously seen guys who probably have never even trained MMA own you many times on the subject over the years. You're just a smug MMA bastard and you know that you are, and undeservedly so. Knowing Frank Shamrock doesnt make you an expert.

So, again, please get off my knob. The whole gig is getting tired and you sound like a bigger jackass than you normally do, which is tricky for you.

And a last resort for what Rob? To make you look stupid? I dont need a last resort for that.. you're doing it pretty well on your own right now.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

That Lashley match was terrible.

 

[Liquidrob]

Again.. how does me saying some wrestlers could venture into MMA translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers. More specifically.. when did I say John Cena could get into MMA? And even if I believed he could (which I dont), where do I say he could be successful? A lot of guys can venture into another sport and not succeed dummy. You're trying to spin it like im on wrestlings jock and that they're > MMAers, and thats simply not what I have ever said. And for you to claim that I have is you talking out of your ass, which you do a lot of anyways, so thats ok.

Theres nothing to change Rob, you're trying to change it for me. Why dont you come with some proof instead of coming with blatant bullshit lies?

And the only person who tries to come off as an expert in this thread is you, you think just bcus you've competed you're the fucking MMA guru, you're not. Ive continuously seen guys who probably have never even trained MMA own you many times on the subject over the years. You're just a smug MMA bastard and you know that you are, and undeservedly so. Knowing Frank Shamrock doesnt make you an expert.

So, again, please get off my knob. The whole gig is getting tired and you sound like a bigger jackass than you normally do, which is tricky for you.

And a last resort for what Rob? To make you look stupid? I dont need a last resort for that.. you're doing it pretty well on your own right now.

lol @ making me look stupid, you get clowned all the time and post on fighters and subjects you say you dont have knowledge on

I dont have the 'proof' because MM was deleted, but you know the deal, you remember defending wrestlers and there abilities and even thought some would do well in MMA

again, what is the point of saying pro wrestlers can venture into MMA if you dont think they will do well? It makes zero sense, anyone can venture into MMA, that is a dumb statement to make if you dont think they wont do well

I can say figure skaters can venture into MMA, or poker players, that is the same thing as what you are saying as you are trying to put it, but the difference is I would never say that because they would not do well and no point to even bring it up

obviuosly you think they would do well because there is no other reason to say it, right?

its cool if you think that, just dont try and change what you said

and yes, I am an expert on MMA, I dont see how I couldnt be, I have been around the sport for a long time, understand the sport, trained in the sport, etc...I know what I am talking about and I also admit when I am wrong also like with Rashad or other thoughts I have had

I also think there are some other very knowledgable posters here, but you are not 1 of them

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

No, you're not an expert. And if you consider yourself an expert you're a terrible one.

 

[Liquidrob]

Some Tito and Strikeforce news

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06...e-possible-first-bout-with-babalu-in-october/

Tito Ortiz close to signing four-fight deal with Strikeforce, possible first bout with Babalu in October

June 28, 2009 by Dustin James

It’s been over a year since we last saw “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz (15-6-1) compete in an MMA fight. After losing to Lyoto Machida at UFC 84 in May of 2008, Ortiz decided to part ways with the UFC and hasn’t seen any action since.

According to Ortiz, he’s about to become the latest member of the Strikeforce family.

The former UFC light heavyweight champion was a guest of honor at last night’s UCFC “Clementi vs. Jensen” show in Pittsburgh at the Mellon Arena. In between fights, Ortiz entered the ring and announced to the crowd that he was extremely close to signing a four-fight deal with the Strikeforce promotion. Not only that, but he also mentioned that he could face Renato “Babalu” Sobral at a Strikeforce event in October.

Perhaps the biggest surprise of all was when Ortiz announced to the crowd that if he does sign the four-fight deal with Strikeforce that he would like his fourth fight to be a catchweight bout against the #1 heavyweight in the world, Fedor Emelianenko.

At one time, Ortiz was considered one of the best fighters in the world. Upon making his MMA debut at UFC 13 back in 1997, Ortiz compiled a 5-2 record with the company before defeating Wanderlei Silva for the UFC light heavyweight title.

Ortiz went on to hold the belt for three years before losing to Randy Couture at UFC 44. Since then Ortiz has had a very rocky relationship with the UFC and it’s owner, Dana White.

After losing to Machida last year, Ortiz decided it was time to move on with his career. Since then he has appeared as a “special guest” for multiple MMA promotions such as EliteXC, Strikeforce, and Affliction. He has also mentioned a number of “rumored” deals with other MMA promotions in the past, but nothing has yet to come to fruition. Perhaps this time we will finally see the return of one of MMA’s true “bad boys”.

I had a feeling they were looking for a Tito/Fedor fight, not many fights you can make for Fedor for the US fan to hype him up like Tito, but you never know with Tito, he always says he signed a fight and hasnt

 

[Steel Mamba]

opcorn:

 

[BigBiss]

http://www.mmascraps.com/

lashley just laid a beatdown. no reason to try and stand with sapp

Sapp is embarrassing on his back

 

[Liquidrob]

wow, look who's on the cover of the premiere issue of the UFC magazine, also lol @ throwing a punch

maybe the champs could have been on the cover or something, nah, that would make to much sense

 

[Steel Mamba]

Some Tito and Strikeforce news

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06...e-possible-first-bout-with-babalu-in-october/



I had a feeling they were looking for a Tito/Fedor fight, not many fights you can make for Fedor for the US fan to hype him up like Tito, but you never know with Tito, he always says he signed a fight and hasnt

Man I'm pretty pissed that I didn't make it out to that. I didn't even find out about this event until Friday tho and kinda had plans already. Hopefully it did well though, I see that they're planning more events for Pittsburgh this year so that's fuckin awesome. I'm definitely not missing the next one, I've been waiting forever for MMA legislation to be passed in PA.

 

[Steel Mamba]

wow, look who's on the cover of the premiere issue of the UFC magazine, also lol @ throwing a punch

maybe the champs could have been on the cover or something, nah, thats would make to much sense

Yeah I saw that too and sadly it didn't even come as a surprise either. On a sidenote Fight! probably has the best MMA mags, the UFC's mag is just gonna be some marketing BS.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Some Tito and Strikeforce news

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06...e-possible-first-bout-with-babalu-in-october/

Tito said he wants Fedor to come down to 210. Fedor aint cuttin for nobody lol. He can get paid just as much fighting Tito as he can fighting some freakshow over in Japan. Tito should man up and go up to HW to fight him.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Tito said he wants Fedor to come down to 210. Fedor aint cuttin for nobody lol. He can get paid just as much fighting Tito as he can fighting some freakshow over in Japan. Tito should man up and go up to HW to fight him.

Fedor would have to be chizzled out of stone to legitimately make 210 me thinks. That dude is big boned.

 

[Liquidrob]

Looks like Roger Gracie will be fighting on the August 15th Strikeforce card

Roger fights August 15
Gracie to make Strikeforce debut

Not having stepped in the ring since last May, when he submitted Yuki Kondo at Sengoku and brought his record to two wins in two appearances, in MMA, Roger Gracie will be one of the attractions August 15 at Strikeforce. The bout should be officially announced by the organizers next week. For the time being no opponent has been named for the black belt's debut on American soil.

Until then Roger is training while basking in the glory of having won his second absolute black belt title at the Jiu-Jitsu World Championship, which you can find complete coverage of in GRACIEMAG 148, which will start to be shipped next week. Click here to pre-order your issue.

The August 15 installment of Strikeforce will feature the female bout of Cris Cyborg against Gina Carano as a main event.

 

[Liquidrob]

Also, word is KJ Noons might be coming back to MMA and fight for Strikeforce and still do some boxing too

Noons vs the winner of Josh or Gil would be great, Noons was really coming along in his MMA career until the whole EliteXC fall out happened, has some of the best boxing in MMA besides the Krazy Horse KO he was lighting people up

 

[calgaryballer]

To be fair, Dana White is probably the single biggest reason the UFC is where it is. If I thought it was going to be an indepth look at what has made the UFC so successful, instead of a giant marketing shill, I might be interested