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[Rayman]

Watching him do what? Brewster was one of those players that I questioned the front office about because there were better quality linemen available. It sucks that he's hurt but he was never going to be anything more than roster fodder.

I just hope it's not the start of another rash of injuries like last year.

Still no word on if Kyle Kosier will be ready this week.

 

[Rayman]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnnnnnd just as I say that, word comes down that Brewster's on IR.

So much for that.

 

[Dez]

woooooooo

im goin to the 'Boyz training camp next Saturday. 1st time ever going to one.

 

[Rayman]

Quick breakdown of camp so far-


QB - Romo looks amazing, but then we knew he would. He's hitting just about everything accurately and going through his progressions on every play. That's great news, since it seems to be a solid indication he won't force throws to certain guys anymore. Let's see how it looks when the D is allowed to hit him come gametime.

Kitna has not looked so good as of yet, struggling with mechanics (snaps being fumbled, running into RBs in the backfield, etc). Hopefully it's just adjusting to the system and he'll improve in time for the season. Good news is he's still leaps and bounds ahead of Brad Johnson and his arm is live enough to make all the throws he'd need to make should Romo go down again.

McGee looks like a rookie adjusting to a new system. Need I say more? He'll get a lot of reps in the preseason games.

RB - All three guys are looking good so far. Choice seems to stand out the most. He's hitting the hole quickly and showing some breakaway speed. He's always had outstanding vision, and his effort is like MBII's when he broke onto the scene a few years back. He's gonna be a spark. Felix seems 100% after the hamstring/to issues and is making a lot of guys miss right now. He says he put some weight on and is yet faster than ever. MBIII has been solid, but not spectacular, but I think that's more because his forte is initiating contact and doing damage on his runs. He still looks good, and I look forward to seeing him in game action. I think the rotation will start with Barber, mixing in a lot of Choice and Felix after the first drive (Felix will line up wide or with one of the others in the backfield a lot), with MBIII returning to his "closer" role late in games. Our trio of RBs should be amazing this year.

FB - Deon Anderson is still Deon Anderson. He should keep his job, but with the emphasis on the 2 TE set, he'll be contributing just as much, if not more, on special teams.

WR - I'm more convinced of it now after the stuff I'm hearing; Roy Williams is going to have a big year. He's catching everything. He's dropped down to 212, which he says he hasn't been since college. He seems a lot quicker than last season (he was suffering plantar fasciitis), and all hte criiticism he's gotten this offseason really seems to have motivated him. Let's hope it sticks. Patrick Crayton has been working on his speed and it is a bit noticable. He's been pretty consistent and might once again lock down the #2 spot. Miles Austin is still the fastest guy out there and has improved his consisitency from last year. Hopefully he doesn't have another injury. Sam Hurd will be #4 again. The competition for the #5 spot will be interesting with Kevin Ogletree, Manuel Johnson, Stanback (who's hurt yet again) and 4th and Long winner Holley. Ogletree's looked the best so far and is my pick to make the team.

TE - Witten and Marty B will play a huge part in our attack. 2 TE will be our base set. Marty B is a stud. Great speed and leaping ability, he's a Gates clone in the making. Combine him with Witten, the best all-around in the league, and it's a tough combo to stop They've both looked excellent thus far. John Phillips is far and away better than the others and will be the third TE

OL - Our first sign of trouble. The starters look great with the return of Kyle Kosier, but the 2nd unit is a mess. Robert Brewster was supposed to step in and let us bump Pat McQuistan from the roster, but his injury means McQ makes it by default. Cory Proctor still sucks, and Montrae Holland is a fat bastard, but at least a reliable backup. The only guy showing any real progress is Doug Free, but there's still debate if he'll be ready to step in if Columbo or Adams go down.

If we have another major injury on the line, we're in trouble. As last year showed, we'll only go as far as the big guys can take us.

DE - Spears, Olshansky, Bowen, Hatcher. That will be our 4. Maybe Marcus Dixon makes it as the 5th guy but is still very raw in camp. Olshansky claims to be pound for pound the strongest player in the league. Haven't seen it thus far, but I think he's at least a comparable replacement for Chris Canty. Might end up being a better fit, even. Spears and Bowen line up inside next to Ratliff in the nickel.

DT - Jay Ratliff is having a great camp. Behind him is a question mark. I guess Junior Siavii will be the #2, but I've heard very little about him thus far. Doesn't seem to be making many plays. Hopefully Ratliff stays healthy. We ask a lot of him.

OLB - Ware, like Romo, looks to be on top of his game already. Spencer on the other side has started to get going the last couple of days. I think this is the year he lives up to his billing. 12 sacks is an attainable (no homerism, I think he can do it). Rookie Victor Butler is having a good camp and so is Steve Octavian, which is a surprise. Brandon Williams (DE turned LB from Texas Tech) needs to put some size/muscle on. He's far too lean and will need at least a full season in the offseason training program before he becomes a regular contributor.

ILB - Brooking has been silent thus far, but I hear he's already a better fit than Zach Thomas. Bradie James hasn't done too much, but he'll be ready. Bobby Carpenter is actually having a good camp, and gets first crack at the nickel LB spot, so we'll see if he finally puts it together. Rookie Jason Williams is a physical specimen, but like Brandon Williams is very raw. He will contribute on special teams, with a remote shot at unseating Barbie if he puts it together. Stephen Hodge is recovering from a minor injury and hasn't hit the field yet.

CB - Terence Newman is Terence Newman. First time in 3 years he's been healthy to start a camp. I think he'll have a solid bounceback year, and prove again that he's an elite corner. Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick are competing for the other spot and they both look solid thus far. Jenkins was the #1 pick last year, so we'd like him to win it, but Scandrick is capable. He's going to cover the slot guy in the nickel anyway. Guy's got a major chip on his shoulder and I love it.

Behind those guys is a mystery. Mike Mickens hasn't looked that good coming off knee surgery. Very slow and looks lost at times. We could be in trouble if we have another injury at CB, since I don't like Courtney Brown.

S - I'll list it as one position. Hamlin and Sensabaugh will start, both look good so far, especially Sensabaugh. It's good to have confidence in a safety's ability to cover again, because let's face it, that was a major issue the last couple of years.

One guy who is having a great camp is Michael Hamlin from Clemson. He has very good instincts and leaping ability. Not great measurables, but just seems to be a natural football player. DeAngelos Smith is still learning the poisition, but is showing some flashes.

I think Pat Watkins is gonna get cut.

K/P - Matt McBriar is back and looks like he never left. No issues with the punter.

David Buehler was drafted because as clutch as he has been, Nick Folk sucks at kickoffs. But Buehler (who has hit nothing but touchbacks so far this week) is more than just a kicker, and will be playing a lot of roles on special teams. He's a tough guy and is the subject of many Chuck Norris style quips with the fanbase.

One thing about these two being on the roster together that has me excited

Cowboys Experimenting With Buehler, Folk
Posted by jellis at 8/2/2009 1:29 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

Rookie kickoff specialist David Buehler's possible forays into other special teams units have been well documented, but the Cowboys showed an interesting wrinkle this morning during a special teams walkthrough.

Buehler and Nick Folk were on the field at the same time while the Cowboys worked at onside kicks, one of them faking the squib, and the other booting it the necessary 10 yards.

Keeping two kickers on the roster gives the Cowboys some interesting possibilities.

"Joe (DeCamillis) is an innovator on special teams," Buehler said. "With two kickers he's trying to look for any advantage he can. So we could either go left, or go right. There are two able kickers out there to get the job done, it's just a matter of what setup the defense shows. It's a weapon most teams don't have."

A couple years ago the league made onside kicks more difficult for the kicking team with a new rule that the kicking team must split its coverage people up evenly on both sides of the field. The hands team generally knows where the ball is going and can stack its personnel to that side.

But the Cowboys might now be able to keep an opponent honest. Buehler's going to need plenty of practice, though, since onside kicks weren't often necessary for his team in college, the USC Trojans.

"I think I onside kicked once against Oregon State," he said. "I'm fairly new to that. Games are a lot closer in the NFL than they were at SC."

Can't wait for this.

More to come.

 

[Rayman]

Mike Jenkins had to be carted off today.

High ankle sprain. He'll miss at least a month, I'd say. Maybe 2.

Scandrick wins the RCB spot by default? Shame, because Jenkins was looking good. Scandrick was too, but now that 3rd CB spot is a question.

 

[Rayman]

On second thought, the injury is now looking to not be as bad as initially thought.

They're saying Jenkins is day-to-day. I wouldn't let him get back out there until he's 100% though. Scandrick is good enough to hold the position down.

 

[longhornfan]

Awesome catch by Marty B in practice the other day.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=14CB805B-C8BD-D9D6-AD4E86F8FA8CC1FE

 

[Derrville]

Backups looked terrible.

 

[steeljake]

whats that i smell? yup, it's failure.

 

[Rayman]

whats that i smell? yup, it's failure.

Whatever. First preseason game means little. First team looked fine.

There were rough spots, but I'm encouraged by some things I saw.

 

[steeljake]

me too, i think 8-8 might just be out of reach.

 

[Rayman]

me too, i think 8-8 might just be out of reach.

No less than 10 wins as long as the line and Romo stay healthy.

I'm thinking they end up closer to 12.


BTW, keep hating. It's cute.

 

[longhornfan]

You guys need to check out Tashard's youtube page, some hilarious videos on there.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TChoice23

 

[Rayman]

I'm sure they can do it.

You know what sucks? Aside from that little note, this is also the only decade in which they've not appeared in a conference championship game. And even with all the playoff frustrations, they still have the most playoff wins all-time.

Quite a feat. Let's hope they add to it.

 

[dboy_dc]

Lions went undefeated last year in the preseason and look what heappened

 

[steeljake]

Steeljake u r one srry no life bastard just get out of this thread plz

ok mn i mnt u no harm. u r #1...


dipshit.

 

[dboy_dc]

OMG we need to cut Courteny Browns ass. This faggot was the reason we lost against San Fran.

he's fast though, so if we cut him oakland would swoop him right up

 

[Rayman]

he's fast though, so if we cut him oakland would swoop him right up

He'll be one of the last cuts as long as we don't lose another rookie back there.

 

[Rayman]

Yes! we cut that worthless piece of shit Courtney Brown.

Cory Proctor still has a job. This to me is unacceptable. Will give a 53 man roster breakdown shortly.

 

[Rayman]

Cowboys place Rudy Carpenter, Jesse Holley, and Manny Johnson on the practice squad per a tweet from Martellus Bennett 26 minutes ago.

ADMIN EDIT

Stanback Among Saturday's Cuts
Posted by nickeatman at 9/5/2009 4:41 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

The Cowboys have turned in their roster cuts to the NFL, and among the big names include wide receivers Isaiah Stanback and Jesse Holley, who scored the winning touchdown Friday night in Minnesota, and late-round draft picks DeAngelo Smith and Mike Mickens, a pair of defensive backs from the University of Cincinnati.

In all, the Cowboys released 22 players and put another on injured reserve. That actually puts the roster at 52 players. It’s likely the Cowboys will claim another player on Sunday.

Stanback, a fourth-round pick in 2007, has struggled to stay healthy and transition himself as a receiver from a quarterback in college. He has just two reception in two injury-plagued seasons.

Not on this list is rookie wide receiver Kevin Ogletree, the only undrafted player to make the team. Ogletree scored two touchdowns in the preseason, including the first of five scores by the Cowboys in Friday’s 35-31 preseason win over the Vikings.

Other so-called “bubble” guys that have made it for now include guards Cory Procter and Montrae Holland and nose tackle Junior Siavii, who hasn’t played an NFL game since 2006.

The Cowboys decided to move rookie linebacker Stephen Hodge to injured reserve. The sixth-round pick from TCU never fully recovered from a knee injury that required surgery in July. Hodge joins Robert Brewster and Brandon Williams among draft picks that will be lost for the 2009 season.

Here’s a list of the cuts and roster moves made on Saturday:




Injured Reserve:
Stephen Hodge

Waived:
Travis Bright

Courtney Brown

Rudy Carpenter

Scott Chandler

Julius Crosslin
Marcus Dixon
Tearrius George
Ryan Gibbons
Jeremy Haynes

Jesse Holley

Mike Jefferson

Manuel Johnson
Keon Lattimore (waived/injured)

Mike Mickens
Willie Reid

Derreck Robinson

Asaph Schwapp

Jonas Seawright

DeAngelo Smith

Isaiah Stanback

Matt Stewart

DeAngelo Willingham

LOL @ people who thought Jesse Holley stood any shot at making the roster. (I'm looking at you, Deviant). This dude was never anything special and was outclassed by Ogletree (my pick as the #5 receiver, more on that in a bit) from Day 1.

Here's our 52:

9 Romo, Tony QB
3 Kitna, Jon QB
7 McGee, Stephen QB

24 Barber, Marion RB
28 Jones, Felix RB
23 Choice, Tashard RB

34 Anderson, Deon FB

11 Williams, Roy WR
84 Crayton, Patrick WR
19 Austin, Miles WR
17 Hurd, Sam WR
85 Ogletree, Kevin WR (How the hell did this guy go undrafted? He's a stud)

82 Witten, Jason TE
80 Bennett, Martellus TE
89 Phillips, John TE

76 Adams, Flozell OT
75 Colombo, Marc OT
68 Free, Doug OT (Had a great preseason until he got abused in the last game. I consider him the LT of the future)
77 McQuistan, Pat OT

70 Davis, Leonard G
63 Kosier, Kyle G
64 Holland, Montrae G

65 Gurode, Andre C
71 Procter, Cory C (ugh, WHY?)
69 Preston, Duke C

18 Buehler, David K (Will be a huge asset, more than many realize)
6 Folk, Nick K

91 Ladouceur, L.P. LS

1 McBriar, Mat P

90 Ratliff, Jay DT
78 Siavii, Junior DT

99 Olshansky, Igor DE
96 Spears, Marcus DE
72 Bowen, Stephen DE
97 Hatcher, Jason DE

56 James, Bradie ILB
51 Brooking, Keith ILB
54 Carpenter, Bobby ILB (smh, dude is just soft. Needs to be replaced)
58 Williams, Jason ILB (on that note, I hope he continues progressing at the rate he's been. I need him to surpass Barbie. Ankle injury will slow him down.)

94 Ware, DeMarcus OLB
93 Spencer, Anthony OLB
57 Butler, Victor OLB
53 Octavien, Steve OLB (finished strong, might be something)
98 Johnson, Curtis OLB

41 Newman, Terence CB
21 Jenkins, Mike CB
32 Scandrick, Orlando CB
20 Ball, Alan CB (Mickens and Smith didn't deliver)

26 Hamlin, Ken S
43 Sensabaugh, Gerald S
25 Watkins, Pat S
36 Hamlin, Michael S

And this guy makes 53:

Tim MacMahon/Blogger

The 53rd man on the Cowboys' roster is Marvin White, a safety claimed
on waivers from the Bengals.
White (6-1, 205) was a fourth-round pick in 2007 out of TCU. He
started 10 games last season before suffering a torn ACL.
You could consider this a White-for-Roy Williams trade.
In other safety news, Cowboys fifth- rounder DeAngelo Smith was
claimed by the Browns.

Eh, did some research. This guy's a scrub. Here he is trying to tackle Felix last year.

I doubt this is the final product. I expect some turnover in the secondary and on the O-Line. We're not deep at either spot. A major injury could screw us big time.