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Vincent Jackson's 2010 stats

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I decided to crunch some numbers, to decipher if Vincent Jackson really was a great WR ... So I took a peek at his 2010 metrics. All stats courtesy of footballoutsiders.com. Stats are below, apologies about the formatting, there are just so many cells and figures to digest, and I have limited experience with tables.

Anyway, without further ado, here are the stats:


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lol...

Randy Moss is easily worse than Jackson. From what I heard people from the Chargers team say they expect Jackson to play well.

What if I were to tell you that Randy Moss had 23 more catches, 339 more yards, and 5 more TDs than Vincent Jackson?
 
What if I were to tell you that Randy Moss had 23 more catches, 339 more yards, and 5 more TDs than Vincent Jackson?

I'd tell you that If Jackson had played for the Chargers through these first 10 weeks your statement above might have Randy's and Jackson's name's flipped around.
 
Moss was doing fine in NE, until Bill got fed up, wrote him out of the gameplan against Miami, and decided they weren't bringing him back.

Moss clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point, but we all knew he was a prick who was well overdue for a meltdown.

Jackson tops out lower than Moss and brings the same type of issues. The fact SD doesn't miss a beat offensively without him tells the story.
 
Moss was doing fine in NE, until Bill got fed up, wrote him out of the gameplan against Miami, and decided they weren't bringing him back.

Moss clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point, but we all knew he was a prick who was well overdue for a meltdown.

Jackson tops out lower than Moss and brings the same type of issues. The fact SD doesn't miss a beat offensively without him tells the story.

Not only that, but saying a player who hasn't played in a single game this season is better than a WR who has played on 3 different teams in 10 weeks is silly. The whole argument is silly.

Obviously, Moss isn't producing like he was the last 2 seasons but given the fact that he's played on 3 different teams so far might have something to do with it along with his shitty attitude.

I've probably watched 5 or 6 games that Moss has played in this season. The Jets doubled him a lot vs. the Vikes, the Patriots doubled him the entire game, the Dolphins doubled him a lot, and the Redskins doubled him damn near the entire game yesterday. It's seriously crazy how teams double him so often. It's easy for them to do so because he's only a deep threat, but that's also why he doesn't give a fuck anymore and isn't getting balls.

His impact doesn't show up on the stat sheet.
 
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Moss was doing fine in NE, until Bill got fed up, wrote him out of the gameplan against Miami, and decided they weren't bringing him back.

Moss clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point, but we all knew he was a prick who was well overdue for a meltdown.

Jackson tops out lower than Moss and brings the same type of issues. The fact SD doesn't miss a beat offensively without him tells the story.

The Patriots are 5-1 since trading Moss away. Moss' impact with the Vikings was minimal; hence the purpose of him being released. The Vikings released Moss for far greater issues than what he said to a caterer and up until this point Moss has 1 reception in 2 games with Tennessee. Yet, the excuse is Fisher doesn't know how to use him. Maybe if his skillset went deeper than being able to run one or two routes he'd have more catches.

Obviously, Moss isn't producing like he was the last 2 seasons but given the fact that he's played on 3 different teams so far might have something to do with it along with his shitty attitude.

LOL, he's played on 3 different teams, becuase he no longer cares and doesn't produce. You can't put the cart before the horse. If Moss produces and has that much value he wouldn't be on his 3rd head coach this year.

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I’m not sure why Moss has always gotten a pass for his lackluster apathetic play, but he always seems to. He’s always given excuses for his apathetic play like, “Oh he’s not producing , because he’s being double teamed,” as if elite WRs don’t beat double teams. Another excuse is when he’s trotting around the field short-arming passes or not blocking the excuse is, “well the ball wasn’t being thrown his way,” as if WR aren't supposed to block or at least in presnap pretend to be a threat on what looks like a designed run play. We also always here the “well his presence opens the field for others,” which in some cases is true, but I don’t think that sort of fact is exclusive to Moss alone, as most elite WR are double teamed and still produce. The fact is Moss is a slacker and always has been, but now his talent isn’t there to cover for him. Moss has been living off of his reputation, when I don’t think the talent or desire are there any longer plain and simple.

Moss is by far a better talent and will have the better career than Jackson, but right now I’d still take Jackson, because at least we know he’s going to produce every week. Jackson surely benefits from playing with Rivers, but the fact remains he still produces and plays with effort, which is what matters and something Moss has failed to do. I can name 10-15 WRs I'd take over Moss easily and I'm sure the both of you could as well.
 
at this point in their careers, both are just WR's with cancerous attitudes who can be easily replaced. neither is so insanely talented to make a huge difference. a dime a dozen, and their attitudes only serve to divide the locker room.

now, if anyone says that they'd take Jackson > Moss in their respective primes... you're a dumbass
 
People are very hard on Vincent Jackson eh. I mean the Moss comparison from earlier this year is still ridiculous, but I think VJAX is still a very solid receiver.
 
I think people have a Madden complex going here. Moss is only effective when he gives a shit. But no one in football checks himself out of games quicker than Randy Moss. It's like if you don't throw him the ball 10+ times a game, he starts throwing a bitch fit and disappears.

Vincent Jackson is only a "diva" in that he wanted to get paid, when everyone aside from AJ Smith knew damn well he deserved a new contract. Aside from that, his production on the field is at the top of the league.

I can see why Aso was ridiculed for what he said, but as of November 22nd 2010 - who wouldn't take Vincent Jackson (age 27) over Randy Moss (age 33 and a mental midget).
 
Moss was doing fine in NE, until Bill got fed up, wrote him out of the gameplan against Miami, and decided they weren't bringing him back.

No, actually, he was not doing fine. He was playing fucking horrible those first four games, just like he is now. Did you watch the games?

Moss clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point, but we all knew he was a prick who was well overdue for a meltdown.

So because he doesn't give a fuck is an excuse for why he's playing bad?

Jackson tops out lower than Moss and brings the same type of issues. The fact SD doesn't miss a beat offensively without him tells the story.

The Chargers offense didn't miss a beat without Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, Legedu Naanee, Craig Davis, Ryan Mathews. Saying that the San Diego offense didn't miss a beat when he was out doesn't mean he's not good. You know who else is doing just fine without a supposed great receiver anymore... The New England Patriots. They haven't missed a beat without Randy Moss.
 
I think people have a Madden complex going here. Moss is only effective when he gives a shit. But no one in football checks himself out of games quicker than Randy Moss. It's like if you don't throw him the ball 10+ times a game, he starts throwing a bitch fit and disappears.

Vincent Jackson is only a "diva" in that he wanted to get paid, when everyone aside from AJ Smith knew damn well he deserved a new contract. Aside from that, his production on the field is at the top of the league.

I can see why Aso was ridiculed for what he said, but as of November 22nd 2010 - who wouldn't take Vincent Jackson (age 27) over Randy Moss (age 33 and a mental midget).

No it isn't, it's fringe top 20 at best.
 
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