Are Bucs Trying to Trade Up For Suh?

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The Rams need to have a pick that plays well...QB, DT, whatever...they need one that can play early and play well.

If you are convinced that Suh is the stud he is projected to be, you take him without a doubt.

I'm a firm believer of taking a QB not when you have the ability, but when you have the ability to put him in a position to succeed.

There aren't many cases to be made where a QB succeeds despite the team around him not being constructed for success. If you look down the list of top QBs taken in the first round, the successes almost always were put in positions to succeed moreover being the reason for success.

The Rams clearly can't coddle a QB to success right now. Unless they have a good off-season that is.

 

[SuperKevin]

Limited potential? :smh: Slap yourself.

McCoy has a much higher ceiling than Suh does. Suh is just closer to reaching his max potential

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Rams need to have a pick that plays well...QB, DT, whatever...they need one that can play early and play well.

If you are convinced that Suh is the stud he is projected to be, you take him without a doubt.

I'm a firm believer of taking a QB not when you have the ability, but when you have the ability to put him in a position to succeed.

There aren't many cases to be made where a QB succeeds despite the team around him not being constructed for success. If you look down the list of top QBs taken in the first round, the successes almost always were put in positions to succeed moreover being the reason for success.

The Rams clearly can't coddle a QB to success right now. Unless they have a good off-season that is.

GREAT post. This is what i've been trying to get across.

The Rams roster has been completely gutted, and is in absolute shambles. A rookie would be eaten alive on that team, and if you don't believe me, take a look at...

...Marc Bulger the last three years. This was a Pro Bowl caliber QB with great accuracy and poise, who has been beaten up so badly that he dosent even resemble the same player anymore. Did he forget how to play? Of course not. He's just surrounded by more & more shit every passing season, constantly trying to play hurt, and has been sacked more than any other QB in history over a 5 year span.

Why subject a high 1st round pick to that? It's counter productive & stupid.

The Rams should simply be taking the best players available. A oncein a generation stud falls in your lap, you take him. GTFO with guys like Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

GREAT post. This is what i've been trying to get across.

The Rams roster has been completely gutted, and is in absolute shambles. A rookie would be eaten alive on that team, and if you don't believe me, take a look at...

...Marc Bulger the last three years. This was a Pro Bowl caliber QB with great accuracy and poise, who has been beaten up so badly that he dosent even resemble the same player anymore. Did he forget how to play? Of course not. He's just surrounded by more & more shit every passing season, constantly trying to play hurt, and has been sacked more than any other QB in history over a 5 year span.

Why subject a high 1st round pick to that? It's counter productive & stupid.

The Rams should simply be taking the best players available. A oncein a generation stud falls in your lap, you take him. GTFO with guys like Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen.

I've probably been chastized a million times over on message boards around the world for what I posted. I'm just a firm believer it.

The idea of taking a QB as the building block that you later surround with talent hasn't worked since Aikman, and what followed Aikman was some of the most genius drafting the NFL has ever seen...Aikman would be the outlier, not the prototype for success.

If you look at the high end QBs taken that ended up succeeding, the path to success looks rather simple...better than good offensive line and solid skill position players already in place (running game is key). Throw in an already good defense and you probably have yourself a successful team early in this players career.

QBs are such delivate little flowers in pro sports. If he isn't coddled and raised right, he is going to wilt faster than a plant out of water and in the desert heat.