Dirtbag Vilma wins appeal

[NAHSTE]

The hilarious part in all this is the players in question are mediocre at best, yet Saints fans are acting like Gob after the Ryan Braun ruling.

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[leaffan]

Picture of Knubb after reading thread title:

 

[Maynard]

I don't think you understand why the suspensions were overturned by the panel.

you are correct, i dont know any of the details other than i heard some news on it while in the car. Its not my point though. My point is that the NFL are hypocrites for even suspending these guys

the practice of injuring players on purpose has been around since forever...nobody cares about that. But since money was involved its a crime.

its not about the players who got hurt on purpose, its about the money.

This sunday, every defense will be looking to knock out the opposing offenses star players. They will talk about it and they will try their best to hurt someone enough to get them out of the game. And this is ok

 

[KNUBB]

The hilarious part in all this is the players in question are mediocre at best, yet Saints fans are acting like Gob after the Ryan Braun ruling.

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It's more about dropping Goodell down a peg. Vilma was gonna be cut before this. D Line would be fine without Will Smith. Vilma is hurt anyway. You reading too much into it. It isn't about the players being back at all.

 

[Aso]

Players have extra motivation to injure when money is involved. That's why it is important. It's that simple.

I believe the suspensions should be upheld.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Players have extra motivation to injure when money is involved. That's why it is important. It's that simple.

I believe the suspensions should be upheld.

But the argument has now shifted to how much power the commish does/should have.

Whether you agree with the bounty punishments or not is not really the issue at hand, here. The issue, is this is a big win for the NFLPA and a huge hit to the league. That concerns me.

 

[Rayman]

Bring on the collusion case.

 

[NWSaint]

good for them. the NFL is a joke for even suspending them in the first place.

"Hey guys, we are going to knock the shit out of Player X and try our hardest to get him hurt so he is out of the game"

That the mentality of EVER PLAYER TO EVER WEAR A FOOTBALL JERSEY SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME....and its ok...as long as you dont pay them to do it.

Fucking hypocrites

Just tellin' it how it is!

& to all the haters, imagine Goodell doin' in your star player for a second, nevermind Vilma or the Saints, just imagine Goodell without any concrete upheld in the court of law style of evidence, that X and Y players are out for the season (or at least 8 weeks), and that's all there is to it.. that'd be like you or me being close to the scene of a crime and having the police arrest you for a "that's him officer", then arresting you, booking you, being put in front of a judge and being told "GUILTY" without a shred of evidence that could hold up.. I don't know about you , but I damn near dreeeeam of something like that happening so I could sue the living tar outta the judicial system, not for the money mind you, but just for the satisfaction of being able to give it back to the man like he though he gave it to me, except of course (via media outlets) for the whole wide world to see someone not just stand up for what they believe in, but the truth.. Let me tell you, the NFL is a bounty, players get paid VERY WELL to go out and cause injuries to other players, that's the name of the game, pay for pain, doubt me ?? turn on the TV this Sunday.. I applaud Vilma, and not just as a Saints fan, but as a human being envying the position he took to stand for what he believed in, and ultimately, what it comes down to, what it's all about .. "show me the evidence"

To quote the movie the Untouchables with Robert Deniro as Al Capone, "you got nothing, you don't have the bookeeper, you don't have the ledger, you got naaaaathing, and if you were the man you think you are you woulda' done something by now, you punk".. LoL!!.. I love that line.. But what's Goodell got ?? naaaahthing!




NW.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just tellin' it how it is!

& to all the haters, imagine Goodell doin' in your star player for a second, nevermind Vilma or the Saints, just imagine Goodell without any concrete upheld in the court of law style of evidence, that X and Y players are out for the season (or at least 8 weeks), and that's all there is to it.. that'd be like you or me being close to the scene of a crime and having the police arrest you for a "that's him officer", then arresting you, booking you, being put in front of a judge and being told "GUILTY" without a shred of evidence that could hold up.. I don't know about you , but I damn near dreeeeam of something like that happening so I could sue the living tar outta the judicial system, not for the money mind you, but just for the satisfaction of being able to give it back to the man like he though he gave it to me, except of course (via media outlets) for the whole wide world to see someone not just stand up for what they believe in, but the truth.. Let me tell you, the NFL is a bounty, players get paid VERY WELL to go out and cause injuries to other players, that's the name of the game, pay for pain, doubt me ?? turn on the TV this Sunday.. I applaud Vilma, and not just as a Saints fan, but as a human being envying the position he took to stand for what he believed in, and ultimately, what it comes down to, what it's all about .. "show me the evidence"

To quote the movie the Untouchables with Robert Deniro as Al Capone, "you got nothing, you don't have the bookeeper, you don't have the ledger, you got naaaaathing, and if you were the man you think you are you woulda' done something by now, you punk".. LoL!!.. I love that line.. But what's Goodell got ?? naaaahthing!




NW.

 

[Rudi]

Obviously somewhat surprised by this, but I figured when they offered Vilma a reduced suspension, there was something going on.

 

[KNUBB]

My favorite part about that sheet of paper is Vitt's name is on it, but the NFL has said he didn't contribute, but the NFL has said he didn't contribute.
No one finds it odd that one person is exempt from the same piece of evidence

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

My favorite part about that sheet of paper is Vitt's name is on it, but the NFL has said he didn't contribute, but the NFL has said he didn't contribute.
No one finds it odd that one person is exempt from the same piece of evidence

nah, not really, and honestly not interested why they decided they couldn't pin that particular piece of evidence on Vitt (he got nailed for others)

I see a sheet of paper that has monetary totals all over it, with the initials "QB" all over it, and the words "bounty" & "collect" all over the place, and any free thinking person with common sense who isn't a Saints fan desperately clinging to longshot conspiracy theories can read between those lines.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

wow..........just friggin; wow............
the power of $$$$$

 

[bucky]

But the argument has now shifted to how much power the commish does/should have.

Whether you agree with the bounty punishments or not is not really the issue at hand, here. The issue, is this is a big win for the NFLPA and a huge hit to the league. That concerns me.

I was going to post this exact thing, but you already have. That really is the big issue. The important issue isn't even about Bounty-Gate. The courts should just stay the heck out of sports. They will ruin them.

Really it started with the Minny Defensive Tackle twins and the Minny courts.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Im really more confused now then before.
What exactly did Goodell not follow that was necessary ?

 

[Prodigal Son]

Lol, at the NFLPA ever talking about player health being important.

 

[Primetime]

Trivia:

What do the New Orleans Saints and Ryan Braun have in common?

 

[calgaryballer]

Per McCann at SI

The CBA makes clear, however, that arbitration, rather than unilateral action by Goodell, is appropriate for certain types of infractions allegedly committed by players. This is true of secret employment agreements between a team and player. The NFLPA has maintained that bounties are a form of secret employment agreement, since players receive additional compensation if they perform a certain on-field task. In July, NFL system administrator Stephen Burbank determined that, contrary to the NFLPA's interpretation, this CBA language failed to address bounty agreements. Burbank distinguished secret employment agreements between teams and players from bounties, which involve players pooling and maintaining funds, with some assistance from coaches, and which involve the intent to injure other players.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...spensions-overturned/index.html#ixzz25so6pZmX

Really, it comes down to the PA fought against what type of suspension they were given. The 3 person panel ruled that in situations where secret payment agreements are in place, Goodell can't punish them for that. However, it leaves open the fact he can still go back and punish them for conduct detrimental to the game, which is what I assumed he had done all along

 

[MrBill]

Per McCann at SI



Really, it comes down to the PA fought against what type of suspension they were given. The 3 person panel ruled that in situations where secret payment agreements are in place, Goodell can't punish them for that. However, it leaves open the fact he can still go back and punish them for conduct detrimental to the game, which is what I assumed he had done all along

Lawyers gonna be lawyers. If I were Goodell, I would come back and give them lifetime suspensions for conduct detrimental to the league.

 

[Cornelius]

Lawyers gonna be lawyers. If I were Goodell, I would come back and give them lifetime suspensions for conduct detrimental to the league.

Thank God you aren't.