Hide Yo Kids. Paterno/Sandusky Trial/Penn State Megathread

[riley420]

Maybe it is a case of simply pointing to the most public figure in this mess. Completely possible.

On the other hand, this case is starting to sound much deeper than just one of JoePa's friends being a kid diddler. This has been a decade+ of coverup.

JoePa's the lightening rod, not just because he's the most recognizable name, but he's the damn king of Central Pennsylvania. His own bosses could not fire him for over the same decade. There are rumors that not only was he complicit in this, he may very well have been involved in the coverup. There very well could have been a child prostitution ring. You know, eventually, a child pornography ring will shoot up in all this madness.

This little gated off section of the country could have been nesting a huge nest of child molesters...

Mark Madden drops rumor that Sandusky’s Second Mile being investigated for “pimping out young boys to rich donors”

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. This fucking guy needs to be publicly castrated.

 

[FedEx227]

Drove to state college last night...it's cray over here so I joined in...LONG LIVE JOE PAAAAA

...Hope you're joking.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Drove to state college last night...it's cray over here so I joined in...LONG LIVE JOE PAAAAA

Congratulations! You're an idiot.

 

[j.hen]

lol @ people rioting over this shit. :smh:

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Anyone do this yet ?

From another site.

 

Not only does it have a boner but it resembles out good friend PedoBear.




What is it about the 50+ crowd and Pedophilia ?
Boy Scouts , Catholic Church , now this. Why does it seem so acceptable to just cover it up and not rat on your buddy ?

I know we grew up on different times but can it really be that just a few decades ago men thought it was MEH for other men to boink little boys ?

 

[EmpireWF]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/s...nvestigation-raises-additional-questions.html

Investigation of Sandusky in 1998 Raises Questions
By NATE SCHWEBER

In 1998, the Penn State campus police and local law enforcement authorities investigated an allegation that Jerry Sandusky, then a prominent coach with the university’s football team, had engaged in inappropriate and perhaps sexual conduct with a boy in the football facility’s showers.

A lengthy police report was generated, state prosecutors said. The boy was interviewed. A second potential victim was identified. Child welfare authorities were brought in. Sandusky confessed to showering with one or both of the children. The local district attorney was given material to consider prosecution.

In the end, no prosecution was undertaken. The child welfare agency did not take action. And, according to prosecutors, the commander of the university’s campus police force told his detective, Ronald Schreffler, to close the case.

“Sandusky admitted showering naked with Victim 6, admitted to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admitted that it was wrong,” said the report issued last weekend by the Pennsylvania attorney general. “Detective Schreffler advised Sandusky not to shower with any child again and Sandusky said that he would not.”

Questions about that investigation abound: Who was interviewed? Who received the report? If the case was shut down, was Sandusky sanctioned in some way?

The New York Times has reached three of the principals involved in the investigation: the two men identified by prosecutors as the police officers who worked on the case, Schreffler and Ralph Ralston, and the investigator with the state welfare department, Gerald Lauro, who was charged with determining if a child had been harmed.

Schreffler — who appears to have been the lead detective, and who interviewed Sandusky — refused to comment when reached at his home in Bellefonte, Pa. He has retired from the campus police force and works at least part time for a security firm in Baltimore, according to his former wife.

“I’ve got nothing to say,” Schreffler said Tuesday night.

Schreffler’s current wife, Laurel, reached Wednesday, said, “I’m sorry, I’m not allowed to talk.”

In an interview this week, Ralston, who said he worked for the local State College police force, insisted he played only a peripheral role in the investigation. He said his role was merely to make sure that campus police had access to the boy, who Ralston said lived in his jurisdiction.

“I can’t even remember anything about it,” Ralston said.

He said he never followed up with campus police or child welfare authorities to find out the conclusion of their investigations.

“I didn’t think any more of it until I read the report over the weekend,” he said of the attorney general’s charges against Sandusky and other university officials. “There was stuff in there I never heard before.”

Lauro, the investigator for the state welfare department in 1998, said he was aware during the investigation that Sandusky was a prominent local figure, but that it did not affect his work.

“Was he a high-profile person?” Lauro asked. “I’d have to be stupid to tell you no. Everybody knew him.”

At the time of his investigation, Lauro said, all the child said was that Sandusky showered with him, and it made him uncomfortable. Lauro said he didn’t feel that was enough to substantiate a sexual-abuse complaint.

Lauro suggested that the child, now grown, had told the grand jury convened by the attorney general a much more explicit account.

Lauro said he has felt worse and worse as the scandal has unfolded, particularly when he read quotations in a newspaper from a victim’s mother blaming him and other officials for not doing more to stop Sandusky.

“I feel bad that there was not more information so I could have done something,” he said. “I feel bad that the mom thinks I should’ve done more. I just didn’t have all the information back then.”

In 1998, though, Lauro said his judgment was that the allegation fell under the category of what he termed “boundary issues,” not sexual assault.

“It was definitely boundary issues, and I worked with boundary issues a lot,” Lauro said. “But if I believed it was more than boundary issues, I would’ve gone to the mat.”

Lauro said he met Schreffler, the campus detective, twice during the investigation. Lauro said he was surprised to learn that the detective would not talk about the investigation of 1998.

“Wow,” he said. “That’s really saying something.”

 

[EmpireWF]

Also, the Attorney General's office in PA said they have some concern with the fact that the two men who were found to have perjured themselves have been placed on administrative leave and are having their legal expenses paid for by PSU. All the while, Paterno was fired despite the belief that he cooperated with their investigation and told the truth to the grand jury.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paternos-firing-penn-state-attorney-general-concern/story?id=14925158#

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/s...nvestigation-raises-additional-questions.html

Right there is a great example of why it's dangerous to overreact to hindsight.

Sandusky was reported in 1998, but there simply wasn't enough there to be prosecuted. Paterno FIRED HIM ANYWAY, based on noting more than accusations that failed to lead to an arrest, no less a prosecution. What else was he supposed to do? The guy was shady, and Paterno acted on it.

Again, I am not wiping the slate clean for Paterno, but up until after 2002 his actions were responsible in my view. After that, we need some questions answered, and it looks bad for him.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also, the Attorney General's office in PA said they have some concern with the fact that the two men who were found to have perjured themselves have been placed on administrative leave and are having their legal expenses paid for by PSU. All the while, Paterno was fired despite the belief that he cooperated with their investigation and told the truth to the grand jury.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paternos-firing-penn-state-attorney-general-concern/story?id=14925158#

It's pretty clear Paterno is being scapegoated to some extent by the school since he is who he is.

The public was judge, jury and executioner, and the school reacted. Despite the fact he did not break the law and the details are still not out or clear in terms of his involvement.

 

[FirstTimer]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?podcas...d+Craig+Carton&station_id=91&tag=&dcid=CBS.NY

He pwns the bitch.

 

[EmpireWF]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?podcas...d+Craig+Carton&station_id=91&tag=&dcid=CBS.NY

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

 

[jeffx]

Anyone hear Mike and Mike this morning when they were reading from the McQueary's grand jury statement? That fucking guy basically walked in on Sandusky when he was balls deep on a 10 year old....and ran away to call his daddy. This fucking guy was 28 years old, and did nothing to defend this kid. He should be thrown in jail under the Good Samaritan laws. He is the 2nd worst of the bunch.

That's what I'm saying. His non-action boggles the mind. He's a big guy who could have easily taken Sandusky down, yet he punked out. What kind of man walks away from a child in danger? I wouldn't care if Sandusky was twice my size, I'm getting that kid out by any means necessary. It's a disgrace he's still on the coaching staff.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Lol.. poor girl. Shes just lost in the mix of "school spirit", she didnt even really try hard to defend Joe. But dude was ready to go off on her or anyone else. She probably didnt deserve all that abuse tho.

That's Craig Carton's gimmick, he's the loose cannon, and Boomer Esiason is the good cop.

Lefty/FedEx

 

[RosettaStoned]

Safe to say Carton is also retarded then?

Both.

Fuck your ninja edit faggot.

 

[FirstTimer]

Lol.. poor girl. Shes just lost in the mix of "school spirit", she didnt even really try hard to defend Joe. But dude was ready to go off on her or anyone else. She probably didnt deserve all that abuse tho.

Yeah,

I think at the end she was trying to make the point that as tramuatic as what happened to the children and as bad as the situation is the students at PSU are going through their own "trauma" in a way as well. Their entire institution and the largest image of it was basically torn down in a few days. it's not computing to them. They can't seperate themselves from it at this point. I think with time to really soak it all in they come to the realization of just how horrible this entire situation is, but for now they are in the middle of a fuckign shit storm and their lives and the PSU institution is crumbling around them. I'm not trying to "excuse" their actions, or paint them as "victims" but psychologically and emotionally the PSU family is dealing with shit as well.

I think I know what she was aiming for but it was a terribley framed argument.

 

[NAHSTE]

That's what I'm saying. His non-action boggles the mind. He's a big guy who could have easily taken Sandusky down, yet he punked out. What kind of man walks away from a child in danger? I wouldn't care if Sandusky was twice my size, I'm getting that kid out by any means necessary. It's a disgrace he's still on the coaching staff.

Yeah you gotta take a socket wrench to the back of his head or whatever you gotta do to remove the child from further harm.

Such a let down. So many children failed by supposed honorable men.

 

[jeffx]

Safe to say Carton is also retarded then?

He's a junior-grade Howard Stern.

 

[zack54attack]

Don't know if this has been posted yet... but uh oh.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-scandal-rumors-sandusky-pimping_n_1086099.html?ref=sports&icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl1|sec1_lnk3|111562

 

[EmpireWF]

Not that im denying any of this is true, but it'd interesting to know exactly where these "rumours" came from, other then prob just someone trying to big the story up even more. If it does hold to be true tho, the already most fucked up story in sports history takes an extremely odd and even more disturbing turn.

Mark Madden's been in the loop from the beginning (of this story at least), writing about it in April. So, it's one of those 'where there's smoke, there's fire' deals.

The original guy hyping the rumor was saying it would break by the weekend at the latest.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Nils Hagen-Frederiksen, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania attorney general's office, noted that the two officials charged with perjury and failure to report the abuse are being defended by the university, while Paterno was fired."We have a cooperating witness [Paterno], an individual who testified, provided truthful testimony," Hagen-Frederiksen told ABCNews.com, "but two others who were found by a grand jury to commit perjury whose legal expenses are being paid for university. One is on administrative leave. Very interesting development.""It's certainly curious and [has] not been explained yet," he said. "Speaking as a prosecuting agency, we have a cooperating witness who has not been charged, while two individuals accused of committing crimes continue to be affiliated."Following is a description of the main players in the Penn State sex scandal, what they knew, what they did and what happened to them.

Yeah, Paterno could have had an important role in all of this, or was a non-factor, but this was the perfect opportunity for the BOT to oust the old bastard, like they've wanted to do for the past decade. Cold blooded.