MMA Thread

[CrimsonGhost56]

nice ... time to crack out the mike whitehead affliction shirt ... im guessing the fight is at LHW...

 

[clovett]

speaking of dream 9 when is this airing and what time?

 

[clovett]

look at wandy getting the diamond in his tooth


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[Liquidrob]

The Ultimate Brock HL

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[Kuzzy Powers]

I highly doubt Frank is going to pick apart Brock.. like dude or not hes still a force. IMO Mir is in serious trouble this time around. Brock got over-zealous last time and it cost him.. id atleast expect him to avoid such a mistake a 2nd time. And Mir definitely cant trade strikes with Brock..

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

as long as brock doesnt get caught again frank muuuurrrrrr is in a load of trouble.

 

[Liquidrob]

Brock is partial champ along with Mir, they're the best the UFC has a HW and thats pretty sad

There are multiple HWs outside the UFC that would be favored over both Brock and Mir, Fedor, Barnett, Overeem, AA and maybe even Tim

You might say Overeem isnt at that level, but he is an awful match up for Brock, K1 level striking and ADCC level grappling

UFC HW belt is almost a B level title right now, the other divisions you cant say that, only BJ keeps the LW title legit and he doesnt even want to ight at 155, UFC rules the 205, 185 and 170 classes

Brock will keep it standing agianst Mir and throw those canned hams, but I think Mir will pull guard if he has to and can sub Brock again, interesting match this time around

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Brock didnt "catch" Randy.. he pummeled him. There were a number of punches that rocked Randy's world in that fight.. the one that got him was just the finishing touch.

You can call Heath over the hill but the dude is one of the toughest fighters in MMA history and he got worked. Brock's size is just so hard to contain and im sure Mir wanted to swing it like he intended to have his face bashed for a few minutes, but I dont think that was fully the situation. Of course he knew he'd benefit from having Brock on the ground.. but Mir was in a world of trouble before Lesnar foolishly tried to step over him (which is a sin against a BJJ fighter). Brock has learned. He hasnt proved much due to the lack of fights but Dana knows he sells, and Brock is still a beast like human being.

 

[Liquidrob]

Brock didnt "catch" Randy.. he pummeled him. There were a number of punches that rocked Randy's world in that fight.. the one that got him was just the finishing touch.

You can call Heath over the hill but the dude is one of the toughest fighters in MMA history and he got worked. Brock's size is just so hard to contain and im sure Mir wanted to swing it like he intended to have his face bashed for a few minutes, but I dont think that was fully the situation. Of course he knew he'd benefit from having Brock on the ground.. but Mir was in a world of trouble before Lesnar foolishly tried to step over him (which is a sin against a BJJ fighter). Brock has learned. He hasnt proved much due to the lack of fights but Dana knows he sells, and Brock is still a beast like human being.

randy was doing pretty well against brock even being 45 years old and having an 11 month lay off, brock was not that impressive, randy would have worn him out if he didnt get blasted with a canned ham, as much as a like randy, he is like 16-9 and has been know to get caught every now and than

and besides the first punch against heath, he basically layed on heath for 3 rounds

it shows the weakness of the UFC HW divsion

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Randy was hanging in there, thats all he was doing. Brock was never in trouble at any point and was constantly laying on Randy. He was lucky to make it to the 2nd round..

I realize you guys are quick to discredit him for everything.. but how about you guys try to giving him credit for something too?

 

[Liquidrob]

Randy was hanging in there, thats all he was doing. Brock was never in trouble at any point and was constantly laying on Randy. He was lucky to make it to the 2nd round..

brock was starting to suck the wind out of the arena, randy was doing well, dont fool yourself

if they meet again, randy takes him

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

LOL no he doesnt. Come on Rob, when you hate a fighter you find anything you can to make him look bad. Brock is no different. Randy has zero chance a 2nd time. I dont think im the one fooling myself homie..

 

[Liquidrob]

I realize you guys are quick to discredit him for everything.. but how about you guys try to giving him credit for something too?

its not taking credit away, its a weak divsion

I give brock respect for jumping right into tough fights and doing ok, he beat a japanese can, lost in 90 seconds, rode a guy with no takedown defense for 3 rounds and beat randy after a long lay off

I'm not singing his praises, fedor, barnett, AA, etc...are clearly the top of the food chain while Brock and Mir are battling for a 2nd tier belt

 

[Liquidrob]

do you think the winner of Brock/Mir is the 2nd best HW in the world?

wasnt Mir getting KO'ed by Vera just like 3 fights ago?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

It is a weak division but hes the best fighter in it (Not named Shane Carwin). And not even necessarily because hes the most skilled, because he isnt.. but guys like Frank Mir almost have to get lucky to beat Brock, the size is just too much. Which is why I lol @ you thinking a 45 year Randy has a shot against him a 2nd time.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

do you think the winner of Brock/Mir is the 2nd best HW in the world?

wasnt Mir getting KO'ed by Vera just like 3 fights ago?

The HW division is all fucked up.. its hard to say who stands where when we cant even see everyone fight each other. But I definitely wouldnt consider Mir a top 3 heavy.. but if hes coming out like he did against Nog maybe he is. Dude looked phenomenal in that fight... and was looking like a promising fighter before his Motorcycle accident/pain pill addiction too.

 

[Liquidrob]

It is a weak division but hes the best fighter in it (Not named Shane Carwin). And not even necessarily because hes the most skilled, because he isnt.. but guys like Frank Mir almost have to get lucky to beat Brock, the size is just too much. Which is why I lol @ you thinking a 45 year Randy has a shot against him a 2nd time.

randy was pushing brock against the cage when he wanted to

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Ridiculous. Same crap people said before the Couture fight..he whips the shit out of Randy and that was a fluke as well ?

Whatever. If he beats Mir then what ?

I sure as hell wont put AA, Sylvia in front of him. Barnetts last 2 real challenges were Nog and Cro Cop and he lost both.

Outside of Fedor rest of the HW in UFC or Affliction or anywhere else are all B level. Its not a stretch to put Lesnar there if he beats Mir. I cant fathom a human being watching that Randy fight and thinking he wins a rematch. He looked like a little boy hugging his dad.

I love Overeem but he'd need to pass a drug test before Id consider him. The guy looks roided out to no end.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Sylvia? Seriously? Wow..

CroCop hasnt done anything relevant in years..

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Ive been hating on Tim Sylvia for ages.. the pressing your opponent against the cage for 5 rounds approach just doesnt work for me. I dont think theres a chance he'd beat Lesnar one-on-one at this point.