UFC 98: Machida vs Evans

[RosettaStoned]

just keep posting your tired 1 liners because thats what you do, your last 4 or 5 posts are brutal

When I look at the records it shows GSP 2 Wins, Penn 0 wins with a TKO loss, but I forgot, he 'nearly' beat him

Kind of like Fujita 'nearly' KO'd Fedor huh, captain contradiction?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

To BJ they probably do. For p4p rankings, not so much.



He does have more merit than BJ. Sorry I'm not impressed with a champion beating a guy 20 pounds lighter than him.

How do they not count towards p4p rankings? Hes in your top 5 and he got worked by another fighter. I dont care how impressed you are.. that shit means something to everyone but you. Including to BJ Penn, GSP, Dana White, and any other relevant MMA personel in the world. BJ is a good enough fighter to handle fighting at WW.. hes just not nearly good enough to hang with GSP. Dont use weight as an excuse.. BJ is fighting heavier than most guys at LW by the time the fight comes anyways.

 

[Liquidrob]

Kind of like Fujita 'nearly' KO'd Fedor huh, captain contradiction?

that has nothing to do with what you're argueing, so whatever, getting a split decision win has nothing to do with Fedor doing the chicken dance, when i mentioned nearly it was about little gloves playing a part in a fight and anything can happen, you still think Sok is better than Little Nog and Arona or ever was?

you dont even know what you are argueing about anymore, you keep trying to discredit GSP but are failing

GSP has the best resume of wins in the UFC, better than Silva or Machida, I dont see how you can even argue that

Win B.J. Penn TKO (Corner Stoppage) UFC 94
Win Jon Fitch Decision (Unanimous) UFC 87
Win Matt Serra TKO (Knees to the Body)
Win Matt Hughes Verbal Submission (Armbar)
Win Josh Koscheck Decision (Unanimous)
Loss Matt Serra TKO (Punches) UFC 69
Win Matt Hughes TKO (Head Kick and Punches)
Win B.J. Penn Decision (Split)
Win Sean Sherk TKO (Punches and Elbows)
Win Frank Trigg Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Jason Miller Decision (Unanimous) UFC 52
Win Dave Strasser Submission (Kimura)
Loss Matt Hughes Submission (Armbar)
Win Jay Hieron TKO (Punches)
Win Karo Parisyan Decision (Unanimous)
Win Pete Spratt Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Thomas Denny TKO (Cut)
Win Travis Galbraith TKO (Elbows)
Win Justin Bruckmann Submission (Armbar)
Win Ivan Menjivar TKO (Punches)

Avenged both his losses in brutal fashion, GSP is dominating in 1 of the UFC's deepest divsions and doesnt get feed Irvin, Cote and Thales

 

[Liquidrob]

To BJ they probably do. For p4p rankings, not so much.

it does mean something, when GSP beat Penn the first time BJ was the WW champ when he left the UFC and I dont believe he had another LW fight until a couple fights after losing to GSP and Hughes

So BJ was a WW at the time before finally going back to 155, the 2nd fight not so much, but GSP showed what happens when you fight him past a 3 round fight, BJ had nothing for GSP

 

[EmpireWF]

GSP avenged his losses and made BJ Penn & Matt Hughes look like novices.

He outwrestled Josh friggin Koscheck.

He has wins over Jay Hieron, Pete Spratt, Karo Parisyan, Mayhem Miller, Trigg, Sherk, Penn, Hughes, Serra, Fitch and others.

He has not lost a single round in over an hour of cage time. Not one single round.

That spells DOMINANCE.

 

[RosettaStoned]

that has nothing to do with what you're argueing, so whatever, getting a split decision win has nothing to do with Fedor doing the chicken dance, when i mentioned nearly it was about little gloves playing a part in a fight and anything can happen,

When I look at the records I see Fedor with 1 win, Fujita with 0 wins and submission loss, but I forgot he 'nearly' KO'd him.

you dont even know what you are argueing about anymore, you keep trying to discredit GSP but are failing

Uh, evidently you don't know know what I'm arguing. I'm not trying to discredit GSP. I think he's the 3rd best fighter in the world. Seems to be your reading comprehension that's failing.

GSP has the best resume of wins in the UFC, better than Silva or Machida, I dont see how you can even argue that

Win B.J. Penn TKO (Corner Stoppage) UFC 94
Win Jon Fitch Decision (Unanimous) UFC 87
Win Matt Serra TKO (Knees to the Body)
Win Matt Hughes Verbal Submission (Armbar)
Win Josh Koscheck Decision (Unanimous)
Loss Matt Serra TKO (Punches) UFC 69
Win Matt Hughes TKO (Head Kick and Punches)
Win B.J. Penn Decision (Split)
Win Sean Sherk TKO (Punches and Elbows)
Win Frank Trigg Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Jason Miller Decision (Unanimous) UFC 52
Win Dave Strasser Submission (Kimura)
Loss Matt Hughes Submission (Armbar)
Win Jay Hieron TKO (Punches)
Win Karo Parisyan Decision (Unanimous)
Win Pete Spratt Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Thomas Denny TKO (Cut)
Win Travis Galbraith TKO (Elbows)
Win Justin Bruckmann Submission (Armbar)
Win Ivan Menjivar TKO (Punches)

Avenged both his losses in brutal fashion, GSP is dominating in 1 of the UFC's deepest divsions and doesnt get feed Irvin, Cote and Thales

No, he gets fed Matt Serra, Josh Koscheck, and a guy 20 pounds lighter.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Lmao @ Georges being "fed" BJ Penn.. BJ called the fucking guy out. It was Georges fist that were fed to BJ Penn's grill.

 

[EmpireWF]

If you want to argue Fedor - A Silva - GSP, I guess you can...but I would disagree.

are we talking PFP or just three best overall fighters today?

PFP I have GSP as the top guy, best fighters today, I'd says GSP > Fedor > Silva

 

[RosettaStoned]

it does mean something, when GSP beat Penn the first time BJ was the WW champ when he left the UFC and I dont believe he had another LW fight until a couple fights after losing to GSP and Hughes

He fought Jens right after, but he was never really a WW. He was always far outweighed anytime he fought over LW.

So BJ was a WW at the time before finally going back to 155, the 2nd fight not so much, but GSP showed what happens when you fight him past a 3 round fight, BJ had nothing for GSP

I'd hope GSP could dominate somebody 20 pounds smaller than him.

 

[Liquidrob]

When GSP beat Kos he was 9-1 and just beat Diego who was 18-0, you love to rewrite history and never remember what fighters were like in the time period just like you were ripping franks career, what a joke

Everyone was calling for GSP/Kos and GSP out wrestled 1 on the best pure wrestlers in MMA

BJ was a the WW champ once and was the current LW champ

you sound like an dummy when you make these posts than want to see GSP/Silva, so is the UFC 'feeding' GSP to Silva? give me a break

 

[RosettaStoned]

Lmao @ Georges being "fed" BJ Penn.. BJ called the fucking guy out. It was Georges fist that were fed to BJ Penn's grill.

The UFC wanted that fight for the draw. Penn hyped it, he's good at hyping fights.

 

[Liquidrob]

He fought Jens right after, but he was never really a WW. He was always far outweighed anytime he fought over LW.

Loss Georges St. Pierre TKO (Corner Stoppage)
Win Sean Sherk TKO (Knee and Punches)
Win Joe Stevenson Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Jens Pulver Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Loss Matt Hughes TKO (Punches)
Loss Georges St. Pierre Decision (Split)
Win Renzo Gracie Decision (Unanimous)
Loss Lyoto Machida Decision (Unanimous)
Win Rodrigo Gracie Decision (Unanimous)
Win Duane Ludwig Submission (Arm Triangle Choke)
Win Matt Hughes Submission (Rear Naked Choke)

After beating Hughes, Penn left the UFC and fought Ludwig, Gracie, Machida and Renzo, all above 170 than lost to GSP at 170 and Hughes at 170

Penn fought at 170 and above for 7 straight fights, we was a WW

 

[RosettaStoned]

When GSP beat Kos he was 9-1 and just beat Diego who was 18-0, you love to rewrite history and never remember what fighters were like in the time period just like you were ripping franks career, what a joke

9-1 with 1 good win. Koscheck had beaten nobody, and ran away from Diego for 3 rounds. Wow, impressive.

Everyone was calling for GSP/Kos and GSP out wrestled 1 on the best pure wrestlers in MMA

Yeah, because he's the best wrestler in MMA. He did it all time. He out wrestled Hughes, and Sherk too.

you sound like an dummy when you make these posts than want to see GSP/Silva, so is the UFC 'feeding' GSP to Silva? give me a break

Yeah, I don't really think GSP will pose much of a threat to Anderson.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Loss Georges St. Pierre TKO (Corner Stoppage)
Win Sean Sherk TKO (Knee and Punches)
Win Joe Stevenson Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Win Jens Pulver Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
Loss Matt Hughes TKO (Punches)
Loss Georges St. Pierre Decision (Split)
Win Renzo Gracie Decision (Unanimous)
Loss Lyoto Machida Decision (Unanimous)
Win Rodrigo Gracie Decision (Unanimous)
Win Duane Ludwig Submission (Arm Triangle Choke)
Win Matt Hughes Submission (Rear Naked Choke)

After beating Hughes, Penn left the UFC and fought Ludwig, Gracie, Machida and Renzo, all above 170 than lost to GSP at 170 and Hughes at 170

Penn fought at 170 and above for 7 straight fights, we was a WW

He was always way out weighed, that's what made it so impressive.

 

[Liquidrob]

He was always way out weighed, that's what made it so impressive.

of course it was impressive, but thats the weight he fought at for 7 fights and was comfortable at that weight, so he was a WW

many fighters were always outweighed, Frank Shamrock, Randy at HW, Fedor, Dan at LHW, etc...doesnt mean the losses dont count

 

[RosettaStoned]

of course it was impressive, but thats the weight he fought at for 7 fights and was comfortable at that weight, so he was a WW

many fighters were always outweighed, Frank Shamrock, Randy at HW, Fedor, Dan at LHW, etc...doesnt mean the losses dont count

I didn't say it didn't count. I said it's unimpressive, and means dick in terms of p4p rankings.

 

[Liquidrob]

I didn't say it didn't count. I said it's unimpressive, and means dick in terms of p4p rankings.

and you would be wrong

so BJ only gets p4p points? lol

what about guys who cut a ton of weight like anderson, forrest, tito, franklin, etc...? many fighters go in with just as much weight difference as BJ vs GSP even in there own weight class

your logic is flawed

 

[EmpireWF]

What's Silva's weakest skill? The ground game.

GSP has the skills to take Silva down and beat him there.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

The UFC wanted that fight for the draw. Penn hyped it, he's good at hyping fights.

Of course UFC wanted that fight.. and BJ wanted to fight GSP too because hes a cocky prick. You dont call people out and talk all kinds of shit unless you think you can beat them. So if BJ doesnt discredit losing to GSP, why should you? Because its moronic not to rate a victory over someone you personally rank in your own top 5. Should we discredit all of BJ's fights cause he typically fights heavier than most LWs do? Of course not.

 

[RosettaStoned]

So if BJ doesnt discredit losing to GSP, why should you?

Maybe you missed it, but he accused him of greasing. Along with a decent amount of those impressive wins of his.