Saints Defense maintained a Bounty Program

[Warner2BruceTD]

Did you think the Saints bounty program was OK?

According to his first post in the thread, he said he was fine with the bounty program, provided they were "good, clean, hits".

And yes, that is just about the dumbest, most ignorant statement in this thread, if you eliminate the Tailback U macho man stuff.

 

[nwfisch]

I had in bold the part my question was addressing. No where in the bold does it say anything about the Saints. Your URL had nothing to do with my question. So do you really see a significant CBA infraction over a player run $100 bet on who has the biggest impact play? Or even a $1000 bet.

I do. If a team offers incentives for even impact plays, it provides other teams a disadvantage in what they're able to offer.

Especially a $1000 wager, to knockout someone is terrible.

 

[bucky]

Did you think the Saints bounty program was OK?

That embedded article had that Williams himself admitted to a bounty program for injuring players. I already commented on that. I could go back and repost it. If you like, go back a page and read it. To answer your question directly, and I've answered it a couple of times already, NO.

But later in that same article, it had a player saying that the program in place never encouraged injuring other players. If that's true then I don't have a problem with an incentive program for impact plays.

 

[EmpireWF]

I had in bold the part my question was addressing. No where in the bold does it say anything about the Saints. Your URL had nothing to do with my question. So do you really see a significant CBA infraction over a player run $100 bet on who has the biggest impact play? Or even a $1000 bet.

Bounties are not allowed by the cba.

 

[bucky]

According to his first post in the thread, he said he was fine with the bounty program, provided they were "good, clean, hits".

And yes, that is just about the dumbest, most ignorant statement in this thread, if you eliminate the Tailback U macho man stuff.

Use some critical thinking and read between the lines. You say your so good at it. I don't have a problem with good/clean/legal hard hits. The refs and the league are there to penalize the other hits. If a hit is a good/clean/legal hard hit, then functionally, on the field, their isn't anything unethical about the hit. League fines, and suspensions on illegal hits should help combat unethical bounty programs.

Stop PMSing.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Bounties are not allowed by the cba.

good, clean, hits blah blah blah

YOU GUYS DONT GET IT, FOOTBALL IS A GAME FOR MANLY MEN WHO WANT TO HURT EACH OTHER AT ALL COSTS....but only with good, clean, hits.

 

[bucky]

Bounties are not allowed by the cba.

My question had nothing to do with bounty's. It's about player pool incentive programs over an insignificant amount of money. You see that as a significant CBA infraction or not?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Use some critical thinking and read between the lines. You say your so good at it. I don't have a problem with good/clean/legal hard hits. The refs and the league are there to penalize the other hits. If a hit is a good/clean/legal hard hit, then functionally, on the field, their isn't anything unethical about the hit. League fines, and suspensions on illegal hits should help combat unethical bounty programs.

Stop PMSing.

blah blah blah

You keep repeating the same rhetoric, and it still sounds incredibly naive and stupid.

You are condoning bounties, we have now established that you are not only incapable of anything other than surface level thinking, but you are also just as crazy as Tailback.

You've got the last word, i'm done with you. You've made a complete fool of yourself in two threads this week, I cant do this with you anymore until you are woefully off base about the next topic.

 

[EmpireWF]

My question had nothing to do with bounty's. It's about player pool incentive programs over an insignificant amount of money. You see that as a significant CBA infraction or not?

When did we start talking about that?

Bounty programs, lying to the league and disobeying the league are why the saints and perhaps other teams are getting in trouble.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

When did we start talking about that?

Bounty programs, lying to the league and disobeying the league are why the saints and perhaps other teams are getting in trouble.

good, clean, hard hits

 

[bucky]

You are condoning bounties

I'm not condoning bounties. You need some comprehension classes. If that's what you get then you really are a dumbass.

You've got the last word, i'm done with you. You've made a complete fool of yourself in two threads this week, I cant do this with you anymore until you are woefully off base about the next topic.

yeah, "Innocent until proven guilty" is foolish. Waiting for more evidence in official hearings before trashing somebody is foolish.

You really are very inflexible.

I have a saying that you can always reason with the reasonable. I found out in these two threads just how unreasonable you can be.

Seriously, stop PMSing and actually read what someone says instead of twisting what they say.

 

[bucky]

When did we start talking about that?

Bounty programs, lying to the league and disobeying the league are why the saints and perhaps other teams are getting in trouble.

I did after saying I don't mind incentive programs for impact plays and Warner equates that to you're ok with bounties to injure.

I'm trying to establish whether you think there is a distinction or not. Cause I do.

In my first post I said that the refs and the league need to do something about the illegal hits through fines and suspensions.

So is this OK with you or not. Or do you make the same leap warner does that this somehow condones bounty's to injure?

 

[Tailback U]

If players wanted to hurt each ither so badly, then why do they get into prayer circles and drop to a knee and hold hands and shed tears when a guy is laying motionless on the ground?

Are you kidding me? Are you dumb? It's similar to a guy asking for forgiveness after he's committed a crime. If they are asking for forgiveness and they feel bad about then obviously they didn't mean to do it, right? You can't be serious here. Stop being so naive.

Disageee if you want, if you want to believe in this myth, but these guys do not want to injure each other. There is a clear difference between wanting to light somebody up, and wanting to hurt someone. You cant see the difference.

For the last time, I have never once said these guys are out to injure anyone. They are out to hurt each other. There is a difference. Get it through your thick dumb skull already. I've said a million times and you keep talking about injury when I have never once mentioned intent to injure. It's annoying and you're retarded for not getting it at this point.

There is absolutely no difference between wanting to light someone and wanting to hurt someone. You are a moron if you can't understand that when you light someone up you are fully intending to hurt them. They go together. You can't light someone up without wanting to hurt them. Anybody with a brain knows this.

 

[Houston]

For the last time, I have never once said these guys are out to injure anyone. They are out to hurt each other. There is a difference. Get it through your thick dumb skull already. I've said a million times and you keep talking about injury when I have never once mentioned intent to injure.

This sir, is why(one of the reasons at least) you are an idiot. The bounty's are for injury, I like how you admit that it's not even what you're talking about.

You're right though, you never have once mentioned intent to injury...meaning you've never once been on topic.

 

[bucky]

For the last time, I have never once said these guys are out to injure anyone. They are out to hurt each other. There is a difference. Get it through your thick dumb skull already. I've said a million times and you keep talking about injury when I have never once mentioned intent to injure. It's annoying and you're retarded for not getting it at this point.

He reads what he wants, not what you actually say.

This cracked me up to:

Disageee if you want, if you want to believe in this myth, but these guys do not want to injure each other. There is a clear difference between wanting to light somebody up, and wanting to hurt someone. You cant see the difference.

He actually makes this distinction, I bring something up that includes this distinction that he himself made, and he proceeds to say there is no distinction.

It truly is like trying to discuss something with a woman.

 

[bucky]

This sir, is why(one of the reasons at least) you are an idiot.

The bounty's are for injury. If you aren't talking about injury, then you're off-topic and shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Houston, if someone says that bounty's for injury are unethical, but incentive programs for impact plays including clean, legal hits, are OK and the other person replies that you're worthless for condoning bounty's to injure. It kind of does bring it into the discussion.

EDIT: Dude, Warner, I thought you'd groan the post above this one. You're slacking.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

bucky, im sure youre a nice guy and all, but you arent very bright

 

[EmpireWF]

1+1= 2

BUT 3*3=9

Cmon man

 

[bucky]

bucky, im sure youre a nice guy and all, but you arent very bright

Dude, why didn't you groan the one above the last one. I'm literally shocked.

And the bold really doesn't mean anything. Just that you seem to be PMSing again.

 

[Houston]

Houston, if someone says that bounty's for injury are unethical, but incentive programs for impact plays including clean, legal hits, are OK and the other person replies that you're worthless for condoning bounty's to injure. It kind of does bring it into the discussion.

EDIT: Dude, Warner, I thought you'd groan the post above this one. You're slacking.

You don't see the difference between condoning clean legal hits...and condoning intent to injure?